[Sigmet-officers] Webinar
Dietmar Wolfram
dwolfram at uwm.edu
Mon Aug 15 09:39:29 EDT 2011
I guess the topic of the webinar should reflect the type of audience we are trying to attract. A debate on a current topic of interest would likely attract current researchers in the field if presented at a technical level, who may or may not already be members of the SIG. An introductory topic would be good for attracting potentially new members to the SIG. I also like Cassidy's idea of a introductory webinar on science mapping tools. It's a timely topic and the introductory level will make it appropriate for a broader audience. If I recall, we have colleagues working in this area at places like Indiana, Drexel, and Leiden, among others .
Dietmar
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Dear All,
I like Cassidy's idea of an introductory webinar instead of a debate.
Regards,
Judit
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Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
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Just to clarify my remark: ?I suggest that when Dietmar contacts the speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level and seeks to find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to talk.?
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This is only a suggestion based on very limited time t think about how to proceed.? If the officers consider that Cassidy?s suggestion or a third proposal is more appropriate please follow what you think is best.? In the interim feel free to advance the discussion without me.
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Jonathan.
--- On Sun, 14/8/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote:
From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org >
Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 20:42
Dear all,
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I am due to leave for the airport in less than nine hours and besides getting a night?s sleep have a stack of things to sort out, including last minute suggested changes to the annual report.? I suggest that when Dietmar contacts the speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level and seeks to find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to talk.?
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Must rush; hope to be in email contact soon.
Jonathan.
--- On Sun, 14/8/11, Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > wrote:
From: Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
To:
Cc: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org >
Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 19:42
A few thoughts: my own impression is echoed in the response by the two people you approached--"visualization" is a huge topic and must be narrowed. Also, the concept of "visualization" does not lend itself to a debate as originally planned. However, this might be suitable for a nice introductory webinar with one individual speaking, rather than multiple. Looking over the revenue generated by previous ASIS&T webinars, it seems that the intro to IA was one of the most popular. Perhaps we could frame this as "An Intro to science mapping: tools, techniques and data sources"? Would it be possible to find a single speaker to do this? I could image this being both popular and revenue generating. I see a panel or debate on this topic less fruitful.
Cassidy
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote:
Dear all,
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I emailed Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and Loet Leydesdorff enquiring whether they were interested in speaking on a Webmar on visualization, and inviting them to suggest suitable topics and speakers for such a debate.? Kevin and Loet replied (contents pasted below).
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>From their feedback, I infer:
(a)?????? A Webmar on visualization would benefit from including Chaomei Chen (in addition to Katy, Kevin and Loet).?
(b)????? Different people (e.g., Katy and Kevin) specialize in very different aspects of visualization, so in order to get a wide spectrum of specialists on board we need to allow the speakers considerable freedom in the content of their presentation.
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Based on previous correspondence, I suggest:
Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.
Date of week: Friday.
Month: September or October, on a date that suits Dietmar and the speakers.
Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America.
Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for others.
Moderator: Dietmar has agreed to moderate.
Topic: Visualization.
Format: On July 26, I wrote that the format is still to be decided adding ?I welcome suggestions from the officers ? on other matters such as the format.?? As I have not received any feedback regarding format, I suggest that Dietmar asks the potential speakers for their input on the format.? One possible format is:
(a)?????? Introduction of the speakers by the moderator.
(b)????? Presentations by three or four speakers on topics that may be of interest.
(c)?????? A questions and answers session.
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In order to take things forward I suggest that Dietmar, the moderato of this Webmar, formally invites Chaomei Chen, Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and Loet Leydesdorff to participate in a Webmar on visualization and seeks to finalize dates, format and content that suits as many potential speakers as possible.? As I think we should press on with the Webmar, if you do not agree with this suggestion, could you please let the list know by Sunday.
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Best,
Jonathan.
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Response from Kevin Boyack
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Hi Jonathon,
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I would also like to find out more about what you mean by "visualization".? What definition of visualization will this debate be based upon? To most people, visualization is the end product - the actual visual. To me, visualization is all about the process of classification, similarity, etc. - the processing that enables a meaningful visual representation of the data.? The visual at the end is important, but to me is just the final step in a multi-step process.
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Your second question, about aspects of visualization, makes me think this debate is about the visuals rather than the process. If that is the case, then I'm not really the right person for this debate. There are aspects around color, shape, visual design, cognition, etc. that are actual visualization aspects. I know very little about those things.
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I would suggest that you talk to Katy Borner about this. She is very qualified, and is more interested in the actual visuals and aspects of visualization than am I. Chaomei Chen should also be consulted - he is, after all, the editor of the Information Visualization journal, and would certainly be able to suggest others.
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If the basis of this debate will be the larger process, then I would be happy to participate if it does not conflict with my schedule.
Best regards,
Kevin
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Response from Loet Leydesdorff
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Dear Jonathan,
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I apologize for not attending the meeting. It must have slipped my mind.
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1. Yes, it seems nice to me to discuss online visualization issues with our colleagues. I have a preference for an email list because then one can contribute at one's own time and speed.
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2. Katy Borner used one of my visualization for the exhibits:
?The Emergence of Nanotechnology?, Places & Spaces: Mapping Science Exhibit; launched at Nov 16-17, Royal Society Global Science Report Launch Conference, Kavli Royal Society International Center, London, England (David
Stilgoe and Katy B?rner); online at
http://scimaps.org/maps/map/the_emergence_of_nan_121/
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It is based on the animation at
http://www.leydesdorff.net/journals/nanotech/ .
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Thank you for keeping me posted.
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Best wishes,
Loet
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--- On Mon, 1/8/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote:
From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org >
Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 8:07
Dear all,
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Thanks Judit and Cassidy for your feedback.? Faced with the divergent perspectives, I have decided to follow my own judgment and pursue visualization.? However, out of fairness to Cassidy, I present my response to her feedback.
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Cassidy wrote ?I don't think we should abandon this topic before we've had true brainstorming on it.?? SIG/MET is not abandoning your suggestion, just not using it this time (as we are short of time and must settle on a topic soon if I am to keep to my schedule for the SIG). ?We have allowed plenty of time fort brainstorming.? Cassidy, Ronald and I spent about 15 minutes discussing the topic and, as Cassidy wrote in her notes, ?The topic that received the most discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms of Jonathan Adam?s Book Citation Index presentation. ?We discussed approaching Eric Archambault to do the con, but could not think of anyone to do the pro.?? In addition, Cassidy has had three further weeks to provide convincing evidence in support of her suggestion.? Cassidy provides a list of people who have ?talked about humanities research and who use ISI?; in my judgment it would devalue our webmar to not insist on
more stringent selection criteria than speakers having ?talked about humanities research and who use ISI.??
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Cassidy wrote ?While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think we will have a much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation Index.?? In view of Cassidy?s concerns that ?visualization may not be of sufficient interest, I suggest that I contact at least one expert in visualization, such as Katy B?rner, for feedback on aspects of visualization that ?are suitable for a SIG/MET webmar.? I plan to do this tomorrow, so if any officer wants to have some input on this plan of action, could you please respond today.
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Best,
Jonathan.
--- On Sun, 31/7/11, Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > wrote:
From: Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
To: "Jonathan Levitt" < jonathan at levitt.net >
Cc: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org >
Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 14:11
Dear all:
While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think we will have a much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation Index as this is a new thing and very interesting to not only scientometricians, but also librarians, policy makers, and humanities scholars. It should not be difficult to come up with a name of someone who uses ISI products for research and who can speak to the benefit of them (what would most of us be doing without the Web of Science?). Some names that come to mind (people who have talked about humanities research and who use ISI):
Howard White
Kate McCain
Bjorn Hammarfelt
Dana Hicks
Alan Porter
Loet Leydesdorff
Vincent Lariviere
The list is much longer, but this is a start. I don't think we should abandon this topic before we've had true brainstorming on it.
Best,
Cassidy
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote:
Dear all,
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Following on from my posting, Cassidy wrote ?I think it would be nice to have Jonathan do a 5 minute introduction to the topic, but not represent the pro as he represents a commercial interest.? The topic, suggested by Cassidy, is not related to my research and I attended neither Jonathan Adams? talk nor Eric?s response; in addition, as we should arrange speakers ASAP, it is not a good idea to have a topic on which we are struggling to find even two speakers that we consider suitable.
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Under these circumstances, I propose switching to a topic on which there are several suitable speakers including more than one from North America.? ?How about some aspect of visualization? ?If you agree to this topic, I will approach potential speakers.
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Best,
Jonathan.
--- On Sat, 30/7/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote:
From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net >
Subject: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org >
Date: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 20:20
Dear all,
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Following on from my previous email on this topic, to me the priority is to settle on topic and speakers.?
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In her useful notes, Cassidy wrote ?The topic that received the most discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms of Jonathan Adam?s Book Citation Index presentation ? We discussed approaching Eric Archambault to do the con, but could not think of anyone to do the pro.?? How about Jonathan providing the pro; after all Jonathan is the person who gave the Book Citation Index presentation?? Could you please give feedback soon, so that I can take things forward by either approach Eric and Jonathan or pursuing a different topic?
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Best,
Jonathan.
--- On Tue, 26/7/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote:
From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org >
Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 9:40
Dear all,
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Thanks for your very helpful feedback.? On the basis of the feedback I suggest the following revised proposal:
Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.
Date of week: Friday.
Month: September, but not September 24 (overlaps with Collnet).
Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America.
Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for others.
Moderator: Dietma has agreed to moderate; thanks very much.
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Judit asked whether the people I mentioned have agreed to participate; no, I have not approached anyone about the possibility of speaking so we are free to select speakers.
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Stasa asked about the format; this is still to be decided.? I would be pleased to build on Cassidy?s experiences with SIG/ED: ?For example, what format was used and what changes she would recommend.? Also, it could be useful to know how many paid $49.
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Cassidy thanks for providing your notes from the ISSI meeting.? They are very helpful and I fully understand about the delay.? You wrote ?We decided to wait and ask other SIG/MET officers for their opinions?; I welcome suggestions from the officers not only on the topic, but on other matters such as the format.
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Best,
Jonathan.
--- On Fri, 22/7/11, Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > wrote:
From: Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu >
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
To: "Cassidy Sugimoto" < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com >
Cc: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 21:17
Thanks, Cassidy. That's less than I thought it would be.
Dietmar
From: "Cassidy Sugimoto" < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com >
To: "Dietmar Wolfram" < dwolfram at uwm.edu >
Cc: "Stasa Milojevic" < smilojev at indiana.edu >, sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:08:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
The current pricing for webinars is as follows:
The initial flat price for having ASIS&T set up the webinar, put it on the website and run registration will be $50 (paid by the SIG, Chapter, etc.).?
If there is a charge associated with the webinar, ASIS&T HQ will collected $1.75 per person (even if one group of people is free). Any extra revenue will go directly to the sponsoring unit (SIG, Chapter, etc.).
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > wrote:
Dear all,
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I like the idea of holding the webinar on a Friday as well for the reasons cited. I'll be happy to serve as a moderator for the session if we find we need one.
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What is the procedure for?mounting a webinar? I notice that go2meeting has been used for others. Is there a cost for the sponsoring SIG? As a first event, I think it would be great if we could offer it for free to SIG members and students to get more buy-in to the SIG. Of course, this?would not be feasible if there is a?usage charge for the platform used that would need to be recouped.
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Dietmar
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From: "Stasa Milojevic" < smilojev at indiana.edu >
To: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:24:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
Dear Jonathan,
Thank you for moving this forward. I have a few suggestions and questions.
I think that having a webinar during a working week might bring in bigger audience. One possibility would be a Friday, since there are fewer classes on Fridays (in the US), which would mean that more faculty and students might be able to attend.
What format do we envision? Are these two lecture-type presentations? What would the role of a moderator be in that case? Who is our targeted audience (bibliometrics community or general IS community)?
Best,
Stasa
On 7/22/11 8:05 AM, Jonathan Levitt wrote:
Dear all,
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I am a bit hampered by not having Cassidy?s notes on the SIG/MET meeting, but cannot delay pressing on with SIG meters (I am going on my annual holiday in August). ?I recall two suggestions from our discussions on the Webmar debate:
(1)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data in the humanities.
(2)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.
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I prefer the second proposal for two reasons: (a) we were unable to find a person who we thought would defend using citation data in the humanities and (b) the second topic is more closely related to our accepted panel on the use of informetric information and could attract participants at our panel.?
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My suggestions are:
Topic: The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.
Time of day: Afternoon (EST) so at to be a comfortable time of day for members from California and Europe.
Date of week: Saturday or Sunday.
Month: September.
Speakers: One from Holland (Loet or Henk) and one from Belgium (Ronald or Wolfgang).
Moderator: A particularly experienced SIG/MET officer (Dietmar? or Judit).
Cost: $14.99 for members of ASIST or ISSI; $49.99 for other people.
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Could you please let me know what you think?
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Thanks,
Jonathan.
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