[Sigmet-officers] Webinar

Sat Aug 20 11:05:56 EDT 2011

Would we want a single presenter, or a few presenters each showing off
their tools?

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu> wrote:
> I guess the topic of the webinar should reflect the type of audience we are
> trying to attract. A debate on a current topic of interest would likely
> attract current researchers in the field if presented at a technical level,
> who may or may not already be members of the SIG. An introductory topic
> would be good for attracting potentially new members to the SIG. I also like
> Cassidy's idea of a introductory webinar on science mapping tools. It's a
> timely topic and the introductory level will make it appropriate for a
> broader audience.  If I recall, we have colleagues working in this area at
> places like Indiana, Drexel, and Leiden, among others.
>
> Dietmar
> ________________________________
> From: "Judit Bar-Ilan" <barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il>
> To: sigmet-officers at asis.org
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar
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> Dear All,
>
> I like Cassidy's idea of an introductory webinar instead of a debate.
>
> Regards,
> Judit
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:36 AM, sigmet-officers-request at asis.org
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>>   1. Re: Webmar debate: topic and speakers (Jonathan Levitt)
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>> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
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>> Just to clarify my remark: ?I suggest that when Dietmar contacts the
>> speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level and seeks to
>> find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to talk.?
>> ?
>> This is only a suggestion based on very limited time t think about how to
>> proceed.? If the officers consider that Cassidy?s suggestion or a third
>> proposal is more appropriate please follow what you think is best.? In the
>> interim feel free to advance the discussion without me.
>> ?
>> Jonathan.
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>> --- On Sun, 14/8/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net> wrote:
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>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
>> Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 20:42
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>> Dear all,
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>> I am due to leave for the airport in less than nine hours and besides
>> getting a night?s sleep have a stack of things to sort out, including last
>> minute suggested changes to the annual report.? I suggest that when Dietmar
>> contacts the speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level
>> and seeks to find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to
>> talk.?
>> ?
>> Must rush; hope to be in email contact soon.
>> Jonathan.
>>
>> --- On Sun, 14/8/11, Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
>> To:
>> Cc: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
>> Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 19:42
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>> A few thoughts: my own impression is echoed in the response by the two
>> people you approached--"visualization" is a huge topic and must be narrowed.
>> Also, the concept of "visualization" does not lend itself to a debate as
>> originally planned. However, this might be suitable for a nice introductory
>> webinar with one individual speaking, rather than multiple. Looking over the
>> revenue generated by previous ASIS&T webinars, it seems that the intro to IA
>> was one of the most popular. Perhaps we could frame this as "An Intro to
>> science mapping: tools, techniques and data sources"? Would it be possible
>> to find a single speaker to do this? I could image this being both popular
>> and revenue generating. I see a panel or debate on this topic less fruitful.
>>
>> Cassidy
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>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
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>> I emailed Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and Loet Leydesdorff enquiring whether
>> they were interested in speaking on a Webmar on visualization, and inviting
>> them to suggest suitable topics and speakers for such a debate.? Kevin and
>> Loet replied (contents pasted below).
>> ?
>> >From their feedback, I infer:
>> (a)?????? A Webmar on visualization would benefit from including Chaomei
>> Chen (in addition to Katy, Kevin and Loet).?
>> (b)????? Different people (e.g., Katy and Kevin) specialize in very
>> different aspects of visualization, so in order to get a wide spectrum of
>> specialists on board we need to allow the speakers considerable freedom in
>> the content of their presentation.
>> ?
>> Based on previous correspondence, I suggest:
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>> Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.
>> Date of week: Friday.
>> Month: September or October, on a date that suits Dietmar and the
>> speakers.
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>> Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America.
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>> Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for
>> others.
>> Moderator: Dietmar has agreed to moderate.
>> Topic: Visualization.
>> Format: On July 26, I wrote that the format is still to be decided adding
>> ?I welcome suggestions from the officers ? on other matters such as the
>> format.?? As I have not received any feedback regarding format, I suggest
>> that Dietmar asks the potential speakers for their input on the format.? One
>> possible format is:
>> (a)?????? Introduction of the speakers by the moderator.
>> (b)????? Presentations by three or four speakers on topics that may be of
>> interest.
>> (c)?????? A questions and answers session.
>> ?
>> In order to take things forward I suggest that Dietmar, the moderato of
>> this Webmar, formally invites Chaomei Chen, Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and
>> Loet Leydesdorff to participate in a Webmar on visualization and seeks to
>> finalize dates, format and content that suits as many potential speakers as
>> possible.? As I think we should press on with the Webmar, if you do not
>> agree with this suggestion, could you please let the list know by Sunday.
>> ?
>> Best,
>> Jonathan.
>> ?
>> Response from Kevin Boyack
>> ?
>> Hi Jonathon,
>> ?
>> I would also like to find out more about what you mean by
>> "visualization".? What definition of visualization will this debate be based
>> upon? To most people, visualization is the end product - the actual visual.
>> To me, visualization is all about the process of classification, similarity,
>> etc. - the processing that enables a meaningful visual representation of the
>> data.? The visual at the end is important, but to me is just the final step
>> in a multi-step process.
>> ?
>> Your second question, about aspects of visualization, makes me think this
>> debate is about the visuals rather than the process. If that is the case,
>> then I'm not really the right person for this debate. There are aspects
>> around color, shape, visual design, cognition, etc. that are actual
>> visualization aspects. I know very little about those things.
>> ?
>> I would suggest that you talk to Katy Borner about this. She is very
>> qualified, and is more interested in the actual visuals and aspects of
>> visualization than am I. Chaomei Chen should also be consulted - he is,
>> after all, the editor of the Information Visualization journal, and would
>> certainly be able to suggest others.
>> ?
>> If the basis of this debate will be the larger process, then I would be
>> happy to participate if it does not conflict with my schedule.
>> Best regards,
>> Kevin
>> ?
>> Response from Loet Leydesdorff
>> ?
>> Dear Jonathan,
>> ?
>> I apologize for not attending the meeting. It must have slipped my mind.
>> ?
>> 1. Yes, it seems nice to me to discuss online visualization issues with
>> our colleagues. I have a preference for an email list because then one can
>> contribute at one's own time and speed.
>> ?
>> 2. Katy Borner used one of my visualization for the exhibits:
>> ?The Emergence of Nanotechnology?, Places & Spaces: Mapping Science
>> Exhibit; launched at Nov 16-17, Royal Society Global Science Report Launch
>> Conference, Kavli Royal Society International Center, London, England (David
>> Stilgoe and Katy B?rner); online at
>> http://scimaps.org/maps/map/the_emergence_of_nan_121/
>> ?
>> It is based on the animation at
>> http://www.leydesdorff.net/journals/nanotech/ .
>> ?
>> Thank you for keeping me posted.
>> ?
>> Best wishes,
>> Loet
>> ?
>> ?
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>> --- On Mon, 1/8/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net> wrote:
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>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
>>
>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
>> Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 8:07
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>> Dear all,
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>> Thanks Judit and Cassidy for your feedback.? Faced with the divergent
>> perspectives, I have decided to follow my own judgment and pursue
>> visualization.? However, out of fairness to Cassidy, I present my response
>> to her feedback.
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>> ?
>> Cassidy wrote ?I don't think we should abandon this topic before we've had
>> true brainstorming on it.?? SIG/MET is not abandoning your suggestion, just
>> not using it this time (as we are short of time and must settle on a topic
>> soon if I am to keep to my schedule for the SIG). ?We have allowed plenty of
>> time fort brainstorming.? Cassidy, Ronald and I spent about 15 minutes
>> discussing the topic and, as Cassidy wrote in her notes, ?The topic that
>> received the most discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms
>> of Jonathan Adam?s Book Citation Index presentation. ?We discussed
>> approaching Eric Archambault to do the con, but could not think of anyone to
>> do the pro.?? In addition, Cassidy has had three further weeks to provide
>> convincing evidence in support of her suggestion.? Cassidy provides a list
>> of people who have ?talked about humanities research and who use ISI?; in my
>> judgment it would devalue our webmar to not insist on
>>  more stringent selection criteria than speakers having ?talked about
>> humanities research and who use ISI.??
>> ?
>> Cassidy wrote ?While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think
>> we will have a much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation
>> Index.?? In view of Cassidy?s concerns that ?visualization may not be of
>> sufficient interest, I suggest that I contact at least one expert in
>> visualization, such as Katy B?rner, for feedback on aspects of visualization
>> that ?are suitable for a SIG/MET webmar.? I plan to do this tomorrow, so if
>> any officer wants to have some input on this plan of action, could you
>> please respond today.
>> ?
>> Best,
>> Jonathan.
>>
>> --- On Sun, 31/7/11, Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>> From: Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
>> To: "Jonathan Levitt" <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> Cc: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
>> Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 14:11
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>> Dear all:
>>
>> While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think we will have a
>> much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation Index as this is a
>> new thing and very interesting to not only scientometricians, but also
>> librarians, policy makers, and humanities scholars. It should not be
>> difficult to come up with a name of someone who uses ISI products for
>> research and who can speak to the benefit of them (what would most of us be
>> doing without the Web of Science?). Some names that come to mind (people who
>> have talked about humanities research and who use ISI):
>>
>> Howard White
>> Kate McCain
>> Bjorn Hammarfelt
>> Dana Hicks
>> Alan Porter
>> Loet Leydesdorff
>> Vincent Lariviere
>>
>> The list is much longer, but this is a start. I don't think we should
>> abandon this topic before we've had true brainstorming on it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Cassidy
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>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
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>> Following on from my posting, Cassidy wrote ?I think it would be nice to
>> have Jonathan do a 5 minute introduction to the topic, but not represent the
>> pro as he represents a commercial interest.? The topic, suggested by
>> Cassidy, is not related to my research and I attended neither Jonathan
>> Adams? talk nor Eric?s response; in addition, as we should arrange speakers
>> ASAP, it is not a good idea to have a topic on which we are struggling to
>> find even two speakers that we consider suitable.
>> ?
>> Under these circumstances, I propose switching to a topic on which there
>> are several suitable speakers including more than one from North America.?
>> ?How about some aspect of visualization? ?If you agree to this topic, I will
>> approach potential speakers.
>> ?
>> Best,
>> Jonathan.
>>
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>> --- On Sat, 30/7/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net> wrote:
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>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> Subject: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
>>
>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
>> Date: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 20:20
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>> Dear all,
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>> Following on from my previous email on this topic, to me the priority is
>> to settle on topic and speakers.?
>> ?
>> In her useful notes, Cassidy wrote ?The topic that received the most
>> discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms of Jonathan Adam?s
>> Book Citation Index presentation ? We discussed approaching Eric Archambault
>> to do the con, but could not think of anyone to do the pro.?? How about
>> Jonathan providing the pro; after all Jonathan is the person who gave the
>> Book Citation Index presentation?? Could you please give feedback soon, so
>> that I can take things forward by either approach Eric and Jonathan or
>> pursuing a different topic?
>> ?
>> Best,
>> Jonathan.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 26/7/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net> wrote:
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>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 9:40
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>> Dear all,
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>> Thanks for your very helpful feedback.? On the basis of the feedback I
>> suggest the following revised proposal:
>> Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.
>> Date of week: Friday.
>> Month: September, but not September 24 (overlaps with Collnet).
>> Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America.
>> Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for
>> others.
>> Moderator: Dietma has agreed to moderate; thanks very much.
>> ?
>> Judit asked whether the people I mentioned have agreed to participate; no,
>> I have not approached anyone about the possibility of speaking so we are
>> free to select speakers.
>> ?
>> Stasa asked about the format; this is still to be decided.? I would be
>> pleased to build on Cassidy?s experiences with SIG/ED: ?For example, what
>> format was used and what changes she would recommend.? Also, it could be
>> useful to know how many paid $49.
>> ?
>> Cassidy thanks for providing your notes from the ISSI meeting.? They are
>> very helpful and I fully understand about the delay.? You wrote ?We decided
>> to wait and ask other SIG/MET officers for their opinions?; I welcome
>> suggestions from the officers not only on the topic, but on other matters
>> such as the format.
>> ?
>> Best,
>> Jonathan.
>>
>> --- On Fri, 22/7/11, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu> wrote:
>>
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>> From: Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
>> To: "Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
>> Cc: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
>> Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 21:17
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>> Thanks, Cassidy. That's less than I thought it would be.
>> Dietmar
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>> From: "Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
>> To: "Dietmar Wolfram" <dwolfram at uwm.edu>
>> Cc: "Stasa Milojevic" <smilojev at indiana.edu>,
>> sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:08:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
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>> The current pricing for webinars is as follows:
>>
>> The initial flat price for having ASIS&T set up the webinar, put it on the
>> website and run registration will be $50 (paid by the SIG, Chapter, etc.).?
>>
>> If there is a charge associated with the webinar, ASIS&T HQ will collected
>> $1.75 per person (even if one group of people is free). Any extra revenue
>> will go directly to the sponsoring unit (SIG, Chapter, etc.).
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>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu>
>> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
>> ?
>> I like the idea of holding the webinar on a Friday as well for the reasons
>> cited. I'll be happy to serve as a moderator for the session if we find we
>> need one.
>> ?
>> What is the procedure for?mounting a webinar? I notice that go2meeting has
>> been used for others. Is there a cost for the sponsoring SIG? As a first
>> event, I think it would be great if we could offer it for free to SIG
>> members and students to get more buy-in to the SIG. Of course, this?would
>> not be feasible if there is a?usage charge for the platform used that would
>> need to be recouped.
>> ?
>> Dietmar
>> ?
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>> From: "Stasa Milojevic" <smilojev at indiana.edu>
>> To: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:24:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
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>> Dear Jonathan,
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>> Thank you for moving this forward. I have a few suggestions and questions.
>>
>> I think that having a webinar during a working week might bring in bigger
>> audience. One possibility would be a Friday, since there are fewer classes
>> on Fridays (in the US), which would mean that more faculty and students
>> might be able to attend.
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>> What format do we envision? Are these two lecture-type presentations? What
>> would the role of a moderator be in that case? Who is our targeted audience
>> (bibliometrics community or general IS community)?
>>
>> Best,
>> Stasa
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>> On 7/22/11 8:05 AM, Jonathan Levitt wrote:
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>> Dear all,
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>> I am a bit hampered by not having Cassidy?s notes on the SIG/MET meeting,
>> but cannot delay pressing on with SIG meters (I am going on my annual
>> holiday in August). ?I recall two suggestions from our discussions on the
>> Webmar debate:
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>> (1)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data in the
>> humanities.
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>> (2)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.
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>> I prefer the second proposal for two reasons: (a) we were unable to find a
>> person who we thought would defend using citation data in the humanities and
>> (b) the second topic is more closely related to our accepted panel on the
>> use of informetric information and could attract participants at our panel.?
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>> My suggestions are:
>> Topic: The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.
>> Time of day: Afternoon (EST) so at to be a comfortable time of day for
>> members from California and Europe.
>> Date of week: Saturday or Sunday.
>> Month: September.
>> Speakers: One from Holland (Loet or Henk) and one from Belgium (Ronald or
>> Wolfgang).
>> Moderator: A particularly experienced SIG/MET officer (Dietmar? or Judit).
>> Cost: $14.99 for members of ASIST or ISSI; $49.99 for other people.
>> ?
>> Could you please let me know what you think?
>> ?
>> Thanks,
>> Jonathan.
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