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Alexander Johannesen:

> No, I'd stress that you cannot categorically say 'bad', just like you
> cannot simply claim 'good'. It's not that I disagree with the
> sentiment of 'constrained design is all bad' for myself, but on behalf
> of _others_ I certainly do.

Well, I can't speak for others. None of us can. I say Design constrained
*artificially* by titles/deliverables short changes itself by the mere lack
of access to the power of integration. It's handicapped from the getgo.
 
> That is simply not true; things can be dealt with segragated or as a
> whole, it depends on context, span, domain, time, skills, resources,
> and money. 

The point is that once artificially segregated you no longer have the power
of integrated Design, even if/when you want to exercise it, as contextually
required. IOW, a Designer poised to consider the totality of the
problem/solution is better equipped than a hyper-specialized one trained on
a fixed spot.
 
> I know, I know, others ignorance puts constraints on the way they perceive
> your 'delivery', but, you know, certain people can do better under those
> circumstances. Don't discriminate against them.

Let's vulgarize this to make a point: the best visual designer or the best
IA in the world (you know who you are :-) considering just visual design or
IA, respectively, will never alone solve, say, the design problem at
Amazon.com. The problem there does not neatly divide itself simply into
visual/infoarch domains. It's an integrated problem, awaiting a fundamental
solution. Solutions that purport to solve such a problem by offering only a
segment are inferior, lesser, inadequate, unsatisfactory, second-rate and,
ahem, bad.

> ... stuck on fighting a system you cannot conquer. :)

See, I'm not deterred by that.

When I first dissed Visio on this list years ago people thought it was nuts
to even question it. So with Windows, homepages, sitemaps, deliverables
culture, heck, even the very definition of IA. I'm very patient. :-)

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Ziya

Design is doing for a dime what anyone can do for a dollar.