Peer Review Scandals
David Wojick
dwojick at CRAIGELLACHIE.US
Fri Jul 18 15:30:10 EDT 2014
Dowman, I do not consider a single failure of replication to be compelling
evidence against the original research, far from it. Especially not if the
procedure is complex, subtle or delicate. I was involved in the cold fusion
case and there were hundreds of attempts at replication by different
research groups. When they all failed the judgement became clear, but only
then.
My best regards,
David
At 03:08 PM 7/18/2014, you wrote:
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>David,
>
>Your first point is spot-on, but I must take issue with the second.
>Repeatability of experimental work is a cornerstone of science. While some
>observations are inherently unrepeatable, for example the discovery of a
>rare fossil, others are not. For example, the cold fusion debacle of the
>late 80's and early 90's revolved around the inability of numerous other
>groups to repeat the experiment. While unrepeatability may be due to
>factors other than a mistake in the original research, we'd be foolish not
>to consider failed efforts to repeat an experiment as evidence of error in
>the original. Perhaps not decisive evidence, but compelling evidence
>nonetheless.
>
>Regards,
>
>Dowman
>
>
>On 18 July 2014 11:55, David Wojick
><<mailto:dwojick at craigellachie.us>dwojick at craigellachie.us> wrote:
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>This is a common confusion. A typical peer review takes a few hours
>because it just involves reading the paper. The primary objective is to
>say whether the results are important enough to publish in the reviewing
>journal. Replication means repeating the research, which may take days,
>weeks, months or more, depending on the project. Reading and research are
>very different things, hence so are review and replication..
>
>As for your second claim, failure to replicate does not show that the
>original research is unsound. This is another common confusion. There may
>be a lot of procedural subtlety in the original research, which is not
>conveyed in the journal article, which is very brief. As a result the
>replication attempt may fail simply because something was done
>differently. This has been discussed at length at The Scholarly Kitchen.
>My wife recently pointed out an amusing example from baking, which is
>applied chemistry. Forty people each made an angel food cake from the same
>recipe and all the resulting cakes had in common was that each had a hole
>in the middle. Journal articles seldom provide even a recipe, so failure
>to replicate is not telling.
>
>David Wojick
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>
>At 02:31 PM 7/18/2014, you wrote:
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>David Wojick claimed:
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>It is dubious to claim that being approved by reviewers should not
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>Lack of replication harms science.
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>Regards,
>C. Gloster
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