Ranking Web (Webometrics) of Universities

[Isidro F. Aguillo]

Dear Jean-Claude,

I can not say anything about intentions because I do not know the policies involved. But I can talk about facts and these are very simple:

- HAL is developing both a central repository and helping in the development of institutional repositories. It is a welcomed initiative as provide both technical expertise and funding support and from a political point of view is reinforcing OA agenda in France.

- When referring to the institutional repositories there are universities who claim their "moral rights" to the papers authored by their members and use the institutional web domain of the university like for example:

HAL Université Pierre et Marie Curie    http://hal.upmc.fr/
HAL Université de Bretagne Occidentale    http://hal.univ-brest.fr/

and others (like the ones I cited in previous messages) that not.

I am not against HAL, just on the contrary, but remember the serious problems we have in bibliometrics correctly assigning affiliations from signatures in papers. Also consider that many rectors are giving instructions for standardizing they way the affiliations are used. So, why a so important resource is forgotten?

Best,

Quoting Jean-Claude Guédon:

> Adminstrative info for SIGMETRICS (for example unsubscribe):
> http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html
>
> But the French choice was to create a central repository for the whole
> country. This is what HAL is all about.
>
> A ranking system should be able to correct for the effects of such a
> policy. There was no "surrendering in this case", just a choice to
> create a one-stop entry into French OA literature.
>
> Jean-Claude Guédon
>
>
>
> Le vendredi 31 août 2012 à 11:02 +0200, Isidro F. Aguillo a écrit :
>
>> Adminstrative info for SIGMETRICS (for example unsubscribe):
>> http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html
>>
>> El 31/08/2012 10:31, Clement Levallois escribió:
>>
>> >
>> > Adminstrative info for SIGMETRICS (for example unsubscribe):
>> > http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html
>> >
>> > Interesting!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In the ranking for Europe, not a single French university in the 100
>> > first? Wow.
>> >
>> >
>> > (see
>> > here: http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_Europe/European_Union)
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> >
>> > Clement
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Clement Levallois, PhD
>> > Erasmus University Rotterdam
>> > The Netherlands
>> >
>> > pro website / personal website
>> >
>> >
>> > twitter and skype: @seinecle
>> > Discover the NESSHI project: http://www.nesshi.eu
>> >
>>
>> Dear all:
>>
>> You can check the Excellence indicator (papers in the 10% top cited)
>> that Paris 6 is 28th and Paris XI is 98th so the reasons for the
>> delayed ranks are related to the web presence. Language is an
>> important issue as English-speaking countries are clearly
>> over-represented but it is not the only reason. Perhaps interesting to
>> this list is that the commitment to open access is limited. You can
>> check the performance of the French university repositories here:
>>
>> http://repositories.webometrics.info/en/Europe/France
>>
>> It is very surprising that in some cases they have surrendered their
>> own web domains in their "institutional" repositories. A few examples:
>>
>> École Polytechnique    http://hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>> Université Paris 1 Panthéon Sorbonne
>> http://hal-paris1.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>> École Mines ParisTech    http://hal-ensmp.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>> Université de Nice Sophia Antipolis
>> http://hal-unice.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>>
>> Of course this practice is penalizing their position in the Ranking.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> --
>> ****************************
>>
>> Isidro F. Aguillo, HonDr.
>> The Cybermetrics Lab, CSIC
>> Madrid. SPAIN
>>
>> isidro.aguillo at cchs.csic.es
>>
>> ****************************
>

-- 
Isidro F. Aguillo, HonPhD
Cybermetrics Lab (3C1). CCHS - CSIC
Albasanz, 26-28. 28037 Madrid. Spain

isidro.aguillo @ cchs.csic.es
www. webometrics.info
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