Ranking Web (Webometrics) of Universities

Fri Aug 31 11:39:47 EDT 2012

Dear Loet:

Not sure. My first candidate is the number of webeditors and the 
university policies about contributors. 1000s scholars building rich 
personal pages are far more effective than a well paid webmaster.

Also, do not forget that web publications is only 50% of the total. The 
other 50% is impact or link visibility, ie the number of inlinks you 
received that in the case of top universities means thousands of people 
linking ("citing" a webpage) to the university webdomain.

Best,

El 31/08/2012 16:32, Loet Leydesdorff escribió:
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> Web (Webometrics) of Universities
>
> Dear Isidro,
>
> Yet, the web-ranks may (partially) correlate with the budgets of the 
> webmasters. J
>
> Could you test this?
>
> Best,
>
> Loet
>
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> Dear Yves:
>
> There is no a single answer, but many possible candidate answers:
>
> - Scientific discoveries should be communicated, preferably not only 
> to the scientists working at rich western organizations. Today Web is 
> the most universal and cheaper scholarly communication tool. Ranking 
> MEASURES the amount of new knowledge generated and how much is 
> published in an open format.
>
> - Most of the scientists are not only producing papers in formal 
> international journals, but their activities are richer and diverse. 
> Ranking MEASURES all the outputs, formal and informal, if they publish 
> them on the Web.
>
> - Universities (specially public ones) are investing a lot, not only 
> in research, but in other different missions. For example promoting 
> distance learning (through web platforms), supplying information about 
> their governance (transparency), attracting talented students and 
> prestigious professors through internationalization of their web 
> contents, supplying information of their technological developments in 
> their specialized web portals and so on. Ranking MEASURES all these 
> different activities if they are making public in the Web.
>
> These are only a few examples.
>
> El 31/08/2012 15:55, Yves Gingras escribió:
>
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>     <http://web.utk.edu/%7Egwhitney/sigmetrics.html> These results
>     show that the "indicator" is dubious and does not really _indicate
>     _anything _specific_... Instead of writing that the  use of web
>     domains is "penalizing their position in the Ranking", one should
>     instead conclude that using web domains to "rank" institutions is
>     dubious since it misrepresent the reality: should institutions
>     _adapt _to indicators OR should indicators be adapted to the
>     reality of institutions???... Before multiplying "indicators"
>     maybe one should first ask the basic question: "what on earth does
>     this thing really MEASURE?"
>
>
>     Yves Gingras
>
>
>
>     Le 31/08/12 05:02, « Isidro F. Aguillo »
>     <isidro.aguillo at CCHS.CSIC.ES> <mailto:isidro.aguillo at CCHS.CSIC.ES>
>     a écrit :
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>     El 31/08/2012 10:31, Clement Levallois escribió:
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>     Interesting!
>
>
>
>     In the ranking for Europe, not a single French university in the
>     100 first? Wow.
>
>
>
>
>     (see here:
>     http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_Europe/European_Union)
>     <http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_Europe/European_Union%29>
>
>
>
>
>     Best,
>
>
>
>
>     Clement
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>     Dear all:
>
>      You can check the Excellence indicator (papers in the 10% top
>     cited) that Paris 6 is 28th and Paris XI is 98th so the reasons
>     for the delayed ranks are related to the web presence. Language is
>     an important issue as English-speaking countries are clearly
>     over-represented but it is not the only reason. Perhaps
>     interesting to this list is that the commitment to open access is
>     limited. You can check the performance of the French university
>     repositories here:
>
>     http://repositories.webometrics.info/en/Europe/France
>
>      It is very surprising that in some cases they have surrendered
>     their own web domains in their "institutional" repositories. A few
>     examples:
>
>      École Polytechnique http://hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>      Université Paris 1 Panthéon Sorbonne
>     http://hal-paris1.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>      École Mines ParisTech http://hal-ensmp.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>      Université de Nice Sophia Antipolis
>     http://hal-unice.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>
>      Of course this practice is penalizing their position in the Ranking.
>
>      Best,
>
>
>
>     Yves Gingras
>
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> Isidro F. Aguillo, HonDr.
> The Cybermetrics Lab, CSIC
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Isidro F. Aguillo, HonDr.
The Cybermetrics Lab, CSIC
Madrid. SPAIN

isidro.aguillo at cchs.csic.es

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