Ranking Web (Webometrics) of Universities

[Isidro F. Aguillo]

Dear Yves:

There is no a single answer, but many possible candidate answers:

- Scientific discoveries should be communicated, preferably not only to 
the scientists working at rich western organizations. Today Web is the 
most universal and cheaper scholarly communication tool. Ranking 
MEASURES the amount of new knowledge generated and how much is published 
in an open format.

- Most of the scientists are not only producing papers in formal 
international journals, but their activities are richer and diverse. 
Ranking MEASURES all the outputs, formal and informal, if they publish 
them on the Web.

- Universities (specially public ones) are investing a lot, not only in 
research, but in other different missions. For example promoting 
distance learning (through web platforms), supplying information about 
their governance (transparency), attracting talented students and 
prestigious professors through internationalization of their web 
contents, supplying information of their technological developments in 
their specialized web portals and so on. Ranking MEASURES all these 
different activities if they are making public in the Web.

These are only a few examples.

El 31/08/2012 15:55, Yves Gingras escribió:
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> http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html Re: [SIGMETRICS] Ranking 
> Web (Webometrics) of Universities These results show that the 
> "indicator" is dubious and does not really _indicate _anything 
> _specific_... Instead of writing that the  use of web domains is 
> "penalizing their position in the Ranking", one should instead 
> conclude that using web domains to "rank" institutions is dubious 
> since it misrepresent the reality: should institutions _adapt _to 
> indicators OR should indicators be adapted to the reality of 
> institutions???... Before multiplying "indicators" maybe one should 
> first ask the basic question: "what on earth does this thing really 
> MEASURE?"
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>
> Yves Gingras
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> Le 31/08/12 05:02, « Isidro F. Aguillo » <isidro.aguillo at CCHS.CSIC.ES> 
> a écrit :
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>     El 31/08/2012 10:31, Clement Levallois escribió:
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>         Interesting!
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>         In the ranking for Europe, not a single French university in
>         the 100 first? Wow.
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>         (see here:
>         http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_Europe/European_Union)
>         <http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_Europe/European_Union%29>
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>         Best,
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>         Clement
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>     Dear all:
>
>      You can check the Excellence indicator (papers in the 10% top
>     cited) that Paris 6 is 28th and Paris XI is 98th so the reasons
>     for the delayed ranks are related to the web presence. Language is
>     an important issue as English-speaking countries are clearly
>     over-represented but it is not the only reason. Perhaps
>     interesting to this list is that the commitment to open access is
>     limited. You can check the performance of the French university
>     repositories here:
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>     http://repositories.webometrics.info/en/Europe/France
>
>      It is very surprising that in some cases they have surrendered
>     their own web domains in their "institutional" repositories. A few
>     examples:
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>      École Polytechnique http://hal-polytechnique.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>      Université Paris 1 Panthéon Sorbonne
>     http://hal-paris1.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>      École Mines ParisTech http://hal-ensmp.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>      Université de Nice Sophia Antipolis
>     http://hal-unice.archives-ouvertes.fr/
>
>      Of course this practice is penalizing their position in the Ranking.
>
>      Best,
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> Yves Gingras
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Isidro F. Aguillo, HonDr.
The Cybermetrics Lab, CSIC
Madrid. SPAIN

isidro.aguillo at cchs.csic.es

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