[Sigmet-officers] SIGMETRICS list
Stasa Milojevic
smilojev at indiana.edu
Sat Dec 3 11:00:06 EST 2011
Dear All,
I agree that this is a very delicate situation and it is true to say
that none of us wants the current SIGMETRICS list to be discontinued.
I want to thank Jonathan for agreeing to approach Gretchen. I've also
realized that we have never added Gretchen to the list of SIG Officers.
Is that something that Jonathan should offer to Gretchen again? That
would help to show our recognition for her efforts and reinforce the
view that all of us have a common goal and are part of the same interest
group.
I also agree with Judit that this is something that as a SIG we need to
discuss. Having similar situation occur two times is worrisome. While I
think that in short run we need to try to keep things as they are so
that we don't disrupt a resource that so many people are using, in long
run it might be a good idea to look for a permanent solution (such as
having the list be administered by ASIST) that would not depend on any
individual member.
Best,
Stasa
On 12/3/2011 3:13 AM, Judit Bar-Ilan wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
> This is a very delicate situation. Of course we do not want the
> SIGMETRICS list to discontinue. It is rather hard to follow the
> discussion thread.
>
>
> On January 4, 2011 Gretchen agreed to continue to moderate the list.
>
>
> Previously, on December 24, 2010 she wrote (if I understand correctly):
>
> I would let the new SIG do their things their way. I will close down
> SIGMET the end of the fiscal year, which will give them ample
> opportunity to figure out how to resolve communications.
>
> I'm more than willing to let you have the subscribers names. I am
> mulling over if I am willing to let you have the archives… I'm leaning
> to have you have them as > long as you can preserve them as my work of
> art and my creation.
>
>
> She made negative remarks about Twitter and Facebook last year as well.
>
>
> I think that it is best that Jonathan approached her, thanking her and
> reminding her of her email of January 4, and assuring her that nothing
> changed since; we view the SIGMETRICS list as a most valuable list
> where SIG/MET members and non SIG/MET members conduct serious metrics
> discussions. We ask her again to continue to moderate the list. Also,
> explain that we have never asked to change anything; we only wanted to
> have a direct link from ASIST to the SIGMETRICS list. I think that
> cc-ing Dick on this would be a good idea. And of course cc-ing Stasa.
>
>
> Now from our website we link to
> http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html
> <http://web.utk.edu/%7Egwhitney/sigmetrics.html>, which says that this
> is a virtual special interest group (but this page is not maintained
> by Gretchen, so we might not be able to change this). Btw, I see that
> our page was updated on http://www.asis.org/SIG/met.html, but the
> information on http://www.asis.org/SIG/SIGMET/ is outdated.
>
>
> Let us hope for the best. In the meantime we should look for new
> options as well, because this is already the second time Gretchen
> announced that she will close down the list.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Judit
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:29:00 -0500
> From: Stasa Milojevic <smilojev at indiana.edu
> <mailto:smilojev at indiana.edu>>
> Subject: [Sigmet-officers] Fwd: RE: SIGMETRICS mailing list
> To: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
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> Cc: rhill at asis.org <mailto:rhill at asis.org>
> Message-ID: <4ED9977C.7080402 at indiana.edu
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> Dear all,
>
> I am forwarding you email threads that ensued after I had asked to
> have
> a link that directs to the SIGMETRICS list subscription info from the
> ASIST SIG Metrics website.
>
> This request (which was honored by Jan and Dick) has, however,
> triggered
> some negative response from Dr. Whitney, who now announces that
> she will
> be shutting down the list. I know that Dietmar asked Gretchen to
> continue to maintain the mailing list at UTK when we stopped being a
> virtual SIG, but, to my knowledge, she never responded to his email.
>
> I most certainly do not see any reason not to continue using the
> current
> list and servers at UTK.
>
> Does anyone know whether any arrangements were made with Gretchen
> in the
> end, and also can a moderator terminate the SIG list without first
> making sure that it is seamlessly transferred to another server
> (if needed)?
>
>
> Best,
> Stasa
>
>
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