[Sigmet-officers] Webinar

Sat Aug 20 20:45:13 EDT 2011

I'm trying to remember how long the webinar would last. If it's  going to be an hour, I think two speakers should be enough if each will be presenting . I believe a ny combination of the three (Katy, Kevin, Loet) would make for an informative session. If it's going to be a longer session, I would think   three should be fine . 

Dietmar 

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From: "Jonathan Levitt" <jonathan at levitt.net> 
To: sigmet-officers at asis.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 6:46:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar 

Dear all, 

I have looked at your contributions to this debate and agree with much that been suggested.   

As regards speakers, I did ask Katy, Kevin and Loet if they were interested in participating and received responses from only Kevin and Loet.   Under these circumstances, if we invite Katy to participate I do feel that we should also ask Kevin and Loet. 

Can we have as many as three speakers?   Do you think that I should first ask Kevin and Loet if they want to participate in this revised format before asking Katy?    

If I were asking Loet and Kevin to participate, I would ask Loet to provide a background introductory talk on the diverse uses of visualisation in informetrics and Kevin to provide a specialist introductory talk on using visualisation in maps of science.   If we wanted to also include Katy, perhaps could be split into two categories along the lines suggested by Kevin: (a) Kevin: the process of classification, similarity, etc. - the processing that enables a meaningful visual representation of the data and (b) Katy: The end product - the actual visual. 

Best, 

Jonathan. 

--- On Sat, 20/8/11, Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com> wrote: 

From: Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar 
To: "Dietmar Wolfram" <dwolfram at uwm.edu> 
Cc: sigmet-officers at asis.org, "Judit Bar-Ilan" <barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il> 
Date: Saturday, 20 August, 2011, 18:35 

Yes, we could certainly invite Katy. 

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > wrote: 
> I like the idea of showing a couple of perspectives. The webinar could begin with an overview followed by a demonstration of some tools. Perhaps some of the work colleagues at Indiana U. are doing could be highlighted. 
> 
> Dietmar 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cassidy Sugimoto" < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > 
> To: "Dietmar Wolfram" < dwolfram at uwm.edu > 
> Cc: "Judit Bar-Ilan" < barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il >, sigmet-officers at asis.org 
> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:05:56 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar 
> 
> Would we want a single presenter, or a few presenters each showing off 
> their tools? 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > wrote: 
>> I guess the topic of the webinar should reflect the type of audience we are 
>> trying to attract. A debate on a current topic of interest would likely 
>> attract current researchers in the field if presented at a technical level, 
>> who may or may not already be members of the SIG. An introductory topic 
>> would be good for attracting potentially new members to the SIG. I also like 
>> Cassidy's idea of a introductory webinar on science mapping tools. It's a 
>> timely topic and the introductory level will make it appropriate for a 
>> broader audience.  If I recall, we have colleagues working in this area at 
>> places like Indiana, Drexel, and Leiden, among others. 
>> 
>> Dietmar 
>> ________________________________ 
>> From: "Judit Bar-Ilan" < barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il > 
>> To: sigmet-officers at asis.org 
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:54 AM 
>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar 
>> 
>> Dear All, 
>> 
>> I like Cassidy's idea of an introductory webinar instead of a debate. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Judit 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:36 AM, sigmet-officers-request at asis.org 
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>>> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:36:27 -0700 (PDT) 
>>> From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers 
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>>> Just to clarify my remark: ?I suggest that when Dietmar contacts the 
>>> speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level and seeks to 
>>> find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to talk.? 
>>> ? 
>>> This is only a suggestion based on very limited time t think about how to 
>>> proceed.? If the officers consider that Cassidy?s suggestion or a third 
>>> proposal is more appropriate please follow what you think is best.? In the 
>>> interim feel free to advance the discussion without me. 
>>> ? 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
>>> --- On Sun, 14/8/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers 
>>> To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org > 
>>> Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 20:42 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> ? 
>>> I am due to leave for the airport in less than nine hours and besides 
>>> getting a night?s sleep have a stack of things to sort out, including last 
>>> minute suggested changes to the annual report.? I suggest that when Dietmar 
>>> contacts the speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level 
>>> and seeks to find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to 
>>> talk.? 
>>> ? 
>>> Must rush; hope to be in email contact soon. 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
>>> --- On Sun, 14/8/11, Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers 
>>> To: 
>>> Cc: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org > 
>>> Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 19:42 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A few thoughts: my own impression is echoed in the response by the two 
>>> people you approached--"visualization" is a huge topic and must be narrowed. 
>>> Also, the concept of "visualization" does not lend itself to a debate as 
>>> originally planned. However, this might be suitable for a nice introductory 
>>> webinar with one individual speaking, rather than multiple. Looking over the 
>>> revenue generated by previous ASIS&T webinars, it seems that the intro to IA 
>>> was one of the most popular. Perhaps we could frame this as "An Intro to 
>>> science mapping: tools, techniques and data sources"? Would it be possible 
>>> to find a single speaker to do this? I could image this being both popular 
>>> and revenue generating. I see a panel or debate on this topic less fruitful. 
>>> 
>>> Cassidy 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> I emailed Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and Loet Leydesdorff enquiring whether 
>>> they were interested in speaking on a Webmar on visualization, and inviting 
>>> them to suggest suitable topics and speakers for such a debate.? Kevin and 
>>> Loet replied (contents pasted below). 
>>> ? 
>>> >From their feedback, I infer: 
>>> (a)?????? A Webmar on visualization would benefit from including Chaomei 
>>> Chen (in addition to Katy, Kevin and Loet).? 
>>> (b)????? Different people (e.g., Katy and Kevin) specialize in very 
>>> different aspects of visualization, so in order to get a wide spectrum of 
>>> specialists on board we need to allow the speakers considerable freedom in 
>>> the content of their presentation. 
>>> ? 
>>> Based on previous correspondence, I suggest: 
>>> 
>>> Time of day: 2 p.m. EST. 
>>> Date of week: Friday. 
>>> Month: September or October, on a date that suits Dietmar and the 
>>> speakers. 
>>> 
>>> Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America. 
>>> 
>>> Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for 
>>> others. 
>>> Moderator: Dietmar has agreed to moderate. 
>>> Topic: Visualization. 
>>> Format: On July 26, I wrote that the format is still to be decided adding 
>>> ?I welcome suggestions from the officers ? on other matters such as the 
>>> format.?? As I have not received any feedback regarding format, I suggest 
>>> that Dietmar asks the potential speakers for their input on the format.? One 
>>> possible format is: 
>>> (a)?????? Introduction of the speakers by the moderator. 
>>> (b)????? Presentations by three or four speakers on topics that may be of 
>>> interest. 
>>> (c)?????? A questions and answers session. 
>>> ? 
>>> In order to take things forward I suggest that Dietmar, the moderato of 
>>> this Webmar, formally invites Chaomei Chen, Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and 
>>> Loet Leydesdorff to participate in a Webmar on visualization and seeks to 
>>> finalize dates, format and content that suits as many potential speakers as 
>>> possible.? As I think we should press on with the Webmar, if you do not 
>>> agree with this suggestion, could you please let the list know by Sunday. 
>>> ? 
>>> Best, 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> ? 
>>> Response from Kevin Boyack 
>>> ? 
>>> Hi Jonathon, 
>>> ? 
>>> I would also like to find out more about what you mean by 
>>> "visualization".? What definition of visualization will this debate be based 
>>> upon? To most people, visualization is the end product - the actual visual. 
>>> To me, visualization is all about the process of classification, similarity, 
>>> etc. - the processing that enables a meaningful visual representation of the 
>>> data.? The visual at the end is important, but to me is just the final step 
>>> in a multi-step process. 
>>> ? 
>>> Your second question, about aspects of visualization, makes me think this 
>>> debate is about the visuals rather than the process. If that is the case, 
>>> then I'm not really the right person for this debate. There are aspects 
>>> around color, shape, visual design, cognition, etc. that are actual 
>>> visualization aspects. I know very little about those things. 
>>> ? 
>>> I would suggest that you talk to Katy Borner about this. She is very 
>>> qualified, and is more interested in the actual visuals and aspects of 
>>> visualization than am I. Chaomei Chen should also be consulted - he is, 
>>> after all, the editor of the Information Visualization journal, and would 
>>> certainly be able to suggest others. 
>>> ? 
>>> If the basis of this debate will be the larger process, then I would be 
>>> happy to participate if it does not conflict with my schedule. 
>>> Best regards, 
>>> Kevin 
>>> ? 
>>> Response from Loet Leydesdorff 
>>> ? 
>>> Dear Jonathan, 
>>> ? 
>>> I apologize for not attending the meeting. It must have slipped my mind. 
>>> ? 
>>> 1. Yes, it seems nice to me to discuss online visualization issues with 
>>> our colleagues. I have a preference for an email list because then one can 
>>> contribute at one's own time and speed. 
>>> ? 
>>> 2. Katy Borner used one of my visualization for the exhibits: 
>>> ?The Emergence of Nanotechnology?, Places & Spaces: Mapping Science 
>>> Exhibit; launched at Nov 16-17, Royal Society Global Science Report Launch 
>>> Conference, Kavli Royal Society International Center, London, England (David 
>>> Stilgoe and Katy B?rner); online at 
>>> http://scimaps.org/maps/map/the_emergence_of_nan_121/ 
>>> ? 
>>> It is based on the animation at 
>>> http://www.leydesdorff.net/journals/nanotech/ . 
>>> ? 
>>> Thank you for keeping me posted. 
>>> ? 
>>> Best wishes, 
>>> Loet 
>>> ? 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 1/8/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers 
>>> 
>>> To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org > 
>>> Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 8:07 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Judit and Cassidy for your feedback.? Faced with the divergent 
>>> perspectives, I have decided to follow my own judgment and pursue 
>>> visualization.? However, out of fairness to Cassidy, I present my response 
>>> to her feedback. 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> Cassidy wrote ?I don't think we should abandon this topic before we've had 
>>> true brainstorming on it.?? SIG/MET is not abandoning your suggestion, just 
>>> not using it this time (as we are short of time and must settle on a topic 
>>> soon if I am to keep to my schedule for the SIG). ?We have allowed plenty of 
>>> time fort brainstorming.? Cassidy, Ronald and I spent about 15 minutes 
>>> discussing the topic and, as Cassidy wrote in her notes, ?The topic that 
>>> received the most discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms 
>>> of Jonathan Adam?s Book Citation Index presentation. ?We discussed 
>>> approaching Eric Archambault to do the con, but could not think of anyone to 
>>> do the pro.?? In addition, Cassidy has had three further weeks to provide 
>>> convincing evidence in support of her suggestion.? Cassidy provides a list 
>>> of people who have ?talked about humanities research and who use ISI?; in my 
>>> judgment it would devalue our webmar to not insist on 
>>>  more stringent selection criteria than speakers having ?talked about 
>>> humanities research and who use ISI.?? 
>>> ? 
>>> Cassidy wrote ?While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think 
>>> we will have a much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation 
>>> Index.?? In view of Cassidy?s concerns that ?visualization may not be of 
>>> sufficient interest, I suggest that I contact at least one expert in 
>>> visualization, such as Katy B?rner, for feedback on aspects of visualization 
>>> that ?are suitable for a SIG/MET webmar.? I plan to do this tomorrow, so if 
>>> any officer wants to have some input on this plan of action, could you 
>>> please respond today. 
>>> ? 
>>> Best, 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
>>> --- On Sun, 31/7/11, Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Cassidy Sugimoto < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers 
>>> To: "Jonathan Levitt" < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> Cc: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org > 
>>> Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 14:11 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all: 
>>> 
>>> While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think we will have a 
>>> much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation Index as this is a 
>>> new thing and very interesting to not only scientometricians, but also 
>>> librarians, policy makers, and humanities scholars. It should not be 
>>> difficult to come up with a name of someone who uses ISI products for 
>>> research and who can speak to the benefit of them (what would most of us be 
>>> doing without the Web of Science?). Some names that come to mind (people who 
>>> have talked about humanities research and who use ISI): 
>>> 
>>> Howard White 
>>> Kate McCain 
>>> Bjorn Hammarfelt 
>>> Dana Hicks 
>>> Alan Porter 
>>> Loet Leydesdorff 
>>> Vincent Lariviere 
>>> 
>>> The list is much longer, but this is a start. I don't think we should 
>>> abandon this topic before we've had true brainstorming on it. 
>>> 
>>> Best, 
>>> Cassidy 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Following on from my posting, Cassidy wrote ?I think it would be nice to 
>>> have Jonathan do a 5 minute introduction to the topic, but not represent the 
>>> pro as he represents a commercial interest.? The topic, suggested by 
>>> Cassidy, is not related to my research and I attended neither Jonathan 
>>> Adams? talk nor Eric?s response; in addition, as we should arrange speakers 
>>> ASAP, it is not a good idea to have a topic on which we are struggling to 
>>> find even two speakers that we consider suitable. 
>>> ? 
>>> Under these circumstances, I propose switching to a topic on which there 
>>> are several suitable speakers including more than one from North America.? 
>>> ?How about some aspect of visualization? ?If you agree to this topic, I will 
>>> approach potential speakers. 
>>> ? 
>>> Best, 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On Sat, 30/7/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> Subject: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers 
>>> 
>>> To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org > 
>>> Date: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 20:20 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> Following on from my previous email on this topic, to me the priority is 
>>> to settle on topic and speakers.? 
>>> ? 
>>> In her useful notes, Cassidy wrote ?The topic that received the most 
>>> discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms of Jonathan Adam?s 
>>> Book Citation Index presentation ? We discussed approaching Eric Archambault 
>>> to do the con, but could not think of anyone to do the pro.?? How about 
>>> Jonathan providing the pro; after all Jonathan is the person who gave the 
>>> Book Citation Index presentation?? Could you please give feedback soon, so 
>>> that I can take things forward by either approach Eric and Jonathan or 
>>> pursuing a different topic? 
>>> ? 
>>> Best, 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
>>> --- On Tue, 26/7/11, Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Jonathan Levitt < jonathan at levitt.net > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate 
>>> To: "SIG/MET" < sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org > 
>>> Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 9:40 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> Thanks for your very helpful feedback.? On the basis of the feedback I 
>>> suggest the following revised proposal: 
>>> Time of day: 2 p.m. EST. 
>>> Date of week: Friday. 
>>> Month: September, but not September 24 (overlaps with Collnet). 
>>> Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America. 
>>> Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for 
>>> others. 
>>> Moderator: Dietma has agreed to moderate; thanks very much. 
>>> ? 
>>> Judit asked whether the people I mentioned have agreed to participate; no, 
>>> I have not approached anyone about the possibility of speaking so we are 
>>> free to select speakers. 
>>> ? 
>>> Stasa asked about the format; this is still to be decided.? I would be 
>>> pleased to build on Cassidy?s experiences with SIG/ED: ?For example, what 
>>> format was used and what changes she would recommend.? Also, it could be 
>>> useful to know how many paid $49. 
>>> ? 
>>> Cassidy thanks for providing your notes from the ISSI meeting.? They are 
>>> very helpful and I fully understand about the delay.? You wrote ?We decided 
>>> to wait and ask other SIG/MET officers for their opinions?; I welcome 
>>> suggestions from the officers not only on the topic, but on other matters 
>>> such as the format. 
>>> ? 
>>> Best, 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
>>> --- On Fri, 22/7/11, Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate 
>>> To: "Cassidy Sugimoto" < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > 
>>> Cc: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org 
>>> Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 21:17 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Cassidy. That's less than I thought it would be. 
>>> Dietmar 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Cassidy Sugimoto" < cassidysugimoto at gmail.com > 
>>> To: "Dietmar Wolfram" < dwolfram at uwm.edu > 
>>> Cc: "Stasa Milojevic" < smilojev at indiana.edu >, 
>>> sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:08:12 AM 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate 
>>> 
>>> The current pricing for webinars is as follows: 
>>> 
>>> The initial flat price for having ASIS&T set up the webinar, put it on the 
>>> website and run registration will be $50 (paid by the SIG, Chapter, etc.).? 
>>> 
>>> If there is a charge associated with the webinar, ASIS&T HQ will collected 
>>> $1.75 per person (even if one group of people is free). Any extra revenue 
>>> will go directly to the sponsoring unit (SIG, Chapter, etc.). 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dietmar Wolfram < dwolfram at uwm.edu > 
>>> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> ? 
>>> I like the idea of holding the webinar on a Friday as well for the reasons 
>>> cited. I'll be happy to serve as a moderator for the session if we find we 
>>> need one. 
>>> ? 
>>> What is the procedure for?mounting a webinar? I notice that go2meeting has 
>>> been used for others. Is there a cost for the sponsoring SIG? As a first 
>>> event, I think it would be great if we could offer it for free to SIG 
>>> members and students to get more buy-in to the SIG. Of course, this?would 
>>> not be feasible if there is a?usage charge for the platform used that would 
>>> need to be recouped. 
>>> ? 
>>> Dietmar 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Stasa Milojevic" < smilojev at indiana.edu > 
>>> To: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:24:54 AM 
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Jonathan, 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for moving this forward. I have a few suggestions and questions. 
>>> 
>>> I think that having a webinar during a working week might bring in bigger 
>>> audience. One possibility would be a Friday, since there are fewer classes 
>>> on Fridays (in the US), which would mean that more faculty and students 
>>> might be able to attend. 
>>> 
>>> What format do we envision? Are these two lecture-type presentations? What 
>>> would the role of a moderator be in that case? Who is our targeted audience 
>>> (bibliometrics community or general IS community)? 
>>> 
>>> Best, 
>>> Stasa 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/22/11 8:05 AM, Jonathan Levitt wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am a bit hampered by not having Cassidy?s notes on the SIG/MET meeting, 
>>> but cannot delay pressing on with SIG meters (I am going on my annual 
>>> holiday in August). ?I recall two suggestions from our discussions on the 
>>> Webmar debate: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (1)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data in the 
>>> humanities. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (2)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I prefer the second proposal for two reasons: (a) we were unable to find a 
>>> person who we thought would defend using citation data in the humanities and 
>>> (b) the second topic is more closely related to our accepted panel on the 
>>> use of informetric information and could attract participants at our panel.? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My suggestions are: 
>>> Topic: The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data. 
>>> Time of day: Afternoon (EST) so at to be a comfortable time of day for 
>>> members from California and Europe. 
>>> Date of week: Saturday or Sunday. 
>>> Month: September. 
>>> Speakers: One from Holland (Loet or Henk) and one from Belgium (Ronald or 
>>> Wolfgang). 
>>> Moderator: A particularly experienced SIG/MET officer (Dietmar? or Judit). 
>>> Cost: $14.99 for members of ASIST or ISSI; $49.99 for other people. 
>>> ? 
>>> Could you please let me know what you think? 
>>> ? 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Jonathan. 
>>> 
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