[Sigmet-officers] Webinar

Sat Aug 20 20:18:34 EDT 2011

Dear Jonathan,

As you have already commenced communications, I am happy to turn this over
to you. I can help liaison with headquarters, from the administrative
aspect.

Cassidy

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>wrote:

> *Dear all,*
>
> * *
>
> *I have looked at your contributions to this debate and agree with much
> that been suggested.  *
>
> * *
>
> *As regards speakers, I did ask Katy, Kevin and Loet if they were
> interested in participating and received responses from only Kevin and Loet.
> Under these circumstances, if we invite Katy to participate I do feel that
> we should also ask Kevin and Loet.*
>
> * *
>
> *Can we have as many as three speakers?  Do you think that I should first
> ask Kevin and Loet if they want to participate in this revised format before
> asking Katy?   *
>
> * *
>
> *If I were asking Loet and Kevin to participate, I would ask Loet to
> provide a background introductory talk on the diverse uses of visualisation
> in informetrics and Kevin to provide a specialist introductory talk on using
> visualisation in maps of science.  If we wanted to also include Katy,
> perhaps could be split into two categories along the lines suggested by
> Kevin: (a) Kevin: the process of classification, similarity, etc. - the
> processing that enables a meaningful visual representation of the data and
> (b) Katy: The end product - the actual visual.*
>
> * *
>
> *Best,*
>
> *Jonathan.*
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 20/8/11, Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar
>
> To: "Dietmar Wolfram" <dwolfram at uwm.edu>
> Cc: sigmet-officers at asis.org, "Judit Bar-Ilan" <barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il>
> Date: Saturday, 20 August, 2011, 18:35
>
> Yes, we could certainly invite Katy.
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>>
> wrote:
> > I like the idea of showing a couple of perspectives. The webinar could
> begin with an overview followed by a demonstration of some tools. Perhaps
> some of the work colleagues at Indiana U. are doing could be highlighted.
> >
> > Dietmar
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>
> >
> > To: "Dietmar Wolfram" <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>
> >
> > Cc: "Judit Bar-Ilan" <barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=barilaj@mail.biu.ac.il>>,
> sigmet-officers at asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@asis.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:05:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar
> >
> > Would we want a single presenter, or a few presenters each showing off
> > their tools?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>>
> wrote:
> >> I guess the topic of the webinar should reflect the type of audience we
> are
> >> trying to attract. A debate on a current topic of interest would likely
> >> attract current researchers in the field if presented at a technical
> level,
> >> who may or may not already be members of the SIG. An introductory topic
> >> would be good for attracting potentially new members to the SIG. I also
> like
> >> Cassidy's idea of a introductory webinar on science mapping tools. It's
> a
> >> timely topic and the introductory level will make it appropriate for a
> >> broader audience.  If I recall, we have colleagues working in this area
> at
> >> places like Indiana, Drexel, and Leiden, among others.
> >>
> >> Dietmar
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: "Judit Bar-Ilan" <barilaj at mail.biu.ac.il<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=barilaj@mail.biu.ac.il>
> >
> >> To: sigmet-officers at asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@asis.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:59:54 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webinar
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> I like Cassidy's idea of an introductory webinar instead of a debate.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Judit
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:36 AM, sigmet-officers-request at asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers-request@asis.org>
> >> <sigmet-officers-request at asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers-request@asis.org>>
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> >>>
> >>>   1. Re: Webmar debate: topic and speakers (Jonathan Levitt)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
> >>> To: SIG/MET <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>        <
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> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>>
> >>> Just to clarify my remark: ?I suggest that when Dietmar contacts the
> >>> speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory level and seeks
> to
> >>> find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to talk.?
> >>> ?
> >>> This is only a suggestion based on very limited time t think about how
> to
> >>> proceed.? If the officers consider that Cassidy?s suggestion or a third
> >>> proposal is more appropriate please follow what you think is best.? In
> the
> >>> interim feel free to advance the discussion without me.
> >>> ?
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sun, 14/8/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
> >>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 20:42
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>> ?
> >>> I am due to leave for the airport in less than nine hours and besides
> >>> getting a night?s sleep have a stack of things to sort out, including
> last
> >>> minute suggested changes to the annual report.? I suggest that when
> Dietmar
> >>> contacts the speakers he asks them to give talks at an introductory
> level
> >>> and seeks to find a topic that on which a range of experts are happy to
> >>> talk.?
> >>> ?
> >>> Must rush; hope to be in email contact soon.
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sun, 14/8/11, Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
> >>> To:
> >>> Cc: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Date: Sunday, 14 August, 2011, 19:42
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A few thoughts: my own impression is echoed in the response by the two
> >>> people you approached--"visualization" is a huge topic and must be
> narrowed.
> >>> Also, the concept of "visualization" does not lend itself to a debate
> as
> >>> originally planned. However, this might be suitable for a nice
> introductory
> >>> webinar with one individual speaking, rather than multiple. Looking
> over the
> >>> revenue generated by previous ASIS&T webinars, it seems that the intro
> to IA
> >>> was one of the most popular. Perhaps we could frame this as "An Intro
> to
> >>> science mapping: tools, techniques and data sources"? Would it be
> possible
> >>> to find a single speaker to do this? I could image this being both
> popular
> >>> and revenue generating. I see a panel or debate on this topic less
> fruitful.
> >>>
> >>> Cassidy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> I emailed Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack and Loet Leydesdorff enquiring
> whether
> >>> they were interested in speaking on a Webmar on visualization, and
> inviting
> >>> them to suggest suitable topics and speakers for such a debate.? Kevin
> and
> >>> Loet replied (contents pasted below).
> >>> ?
> >>> >From their feedback, I infer:
> >>> (a)?????? A Webmar on visualization would benefit from including
> Chaomei
> >>> Chen (in addition to Katy, Kevin and Loet).?
> >>> (b)????? Different people (e.g., Katy and Kevin) specialize in very
> >>> different aspects of visualization, so in order to get a wide spectrum
> of
> >>> specialists on board we need to allow the speakers considerable freedom
> in
> >>> the content of their presentation.
> >>> ?
> >>> Based on previous correspondence, I suggest:
> >>>
> >>> Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.
> >>> Date of week: Friday.
> >>> Month: September or October, on a date that suits Dietmar and the
> >>> speakers.
> >>>
> >>> Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America.
> >>>
> >>> Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49
> for
> >>> others.
> >>> Moderator: Dietmar has agreed to moderate.
> >>> Topic: Visualization.
> >>> Format: On July 26, I wrote that the format is still to be decided
> adding
> >>> ?I welcome suggestions from the officers ? on other matters such as the
> >>> format.?? As I have not received any feedback regarding format, I
> suggest
> >>> that Dietmar asks the potential speakers for their input on the
> format.? One
> >>> possible format is:
> >>> (a)?????? Introduction of the speakers by the moderator.
> >>> (b)????? Presentations by three or four speakers on topics that may be
> of
> >>> interest.
> >>> (c)?????? A questions and answers session.
> >>> ?
> >>> In order to take things forward I suggest that Dietmar, the moderato of
> >>> this Webmar, formally invites Chaomei Chen, Katy Borner, Kevin Boyack
> and
> >>> Loet Leydesdorff to participate in a Webmar on visualization and seeks
> to
> >>> finalize dates, format and content that suits as many potential
> speakers as
> >>> possible.? As I think we should press on with the Webmar, if you do not
> >>> agree with this suggestion, could you please let the list know by
> Sunday.
> >>> ?
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>> ?
> >>> Response from Kevin Boyack
> >>> ?
> >>> Hi Jonathon,
> >>> ?
> >>> I would also like to find out more about what you mean by
> >>> "visualization".? What definition of visualization will this debate be
> based
> >>> upon? To most people, visualization is the end product - the actual
> visual.
> >>> To me, visualization is all about the process of classification,
> similarity,
> >>> etc. - the processing that enables a meaningful visual representation
> of the
> >>> data.? The visual at the end is important, but to me is just the final
> step
> >>> in a multi-step process.
> >>> ?
> >>> Your second question, about aspects of visualization, makes me think
> this
> >>> debate is about the visuals rather than the process. If that is the
> case,
> >>> then I'm not really the right person for this debate. There are aspects
> >>> around color, shape, visual design, cognition, etc. that are actual
> >>> visualization aspects. I know very little about those things.
> >>> ?
> >>> I would suggest that you talk to Katy Borner about this. She is very
> >>> qualified, and is more interested in the actual visuals and aspects of
> >>> visualization than am I. Chaomei Chen should also be consulted - he is,
> >>> after all, the editor of the Information Visualization journal, and
> would
> >>> certainly be able to suggest others.
> >>> ?
> >>> If the basis of this debate will be the larger process, then I would be
> >>> happy to participate if it does not conflict with my schedule.
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Kevin
> >>> ?
> >>> Response from Loet Leydesdorff
> >>> ?
> >>> Dear Jonathan,
> >>> ?
> >>> I apologize for not attending the meeting. It must have slipped my
> mind.
> >>> ?
> >>> 1. Yes, it seems nice to me to discuss online visualization issues with
> >>> our colleagues. I have a preference for an email list because then one
> can
> >>> contribute at one's own time and speed.
> >>> ?
> >>> 2. Katy Borner used one of my visualization for the exhibits:
> >>> ?The Emergence of Nanotechnology?, Places & Spaces: Mapping Science
> >>> Exhibit; launched at Nov 16-17, Royal Society Global Science Report
> Launch
> >>> Conference, Kavli Royal Society International Center, London, England
> (David
> >>> Stilgoe and Katy B?rner); online at
> >>> http://scimaps.org/maps/map/the_emergence_of_nan_121/
> >>> ?
> >>> It is based on the animation at
> >>> http://www.leydesdorff.net/journals/nanotech/ .
> >>> ?
> >>> Thank you for keeping me posted.
> >>> ?
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Loet
> >>> ?
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> --- On Mon, 1/8/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
> >>>
> >>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 8:07
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Judit and Cassidy for your feedback.? Faced with the divergent
> >>> perspectives, I have decided to follow my own judgment and pursue
> >>> visualization.? However, out of fairness to Cassidy, I present my
> response
> >>> to her feedback.
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Cassidy wrote ?I don't think we should abandon this topic before we've
> had
> >>> true brainstorming on it.?? SIG/MET is not abandoning your suggestion,
> just
> >>> not using it this time (as we are short of time and must settle on a
> topic
> >>> soon if I am to keep to my schedule for the SIG). ?We have allowed
> plenty of
> >>> time fort brainstorming.? Cassidy, Ronald and I spent about 15 minutes
> >>> discussing the topic and, as Cassidy wrote in her notes, ?The topic
> that
> >>> received the most discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s
> criticisms
> >>> of Jonathan Adam?s Book Citation Index presentation. ?We discussed
> >>> approaching Eric Archambault to do the con, but could not think of
> anyone to
> >>> do the pro.?? In addition, Cassidy has had three further weeks to
> provide
> >>> convincing evidence in support of her suggestion.? Cassidy provides a
> list
> >>> of people who have ?talked about humanities research and who use ISI?;
> in my
> >>> judgment it would devalue our webmar to not insist on
> >>>  more stringent selection criteria than speakers having ?talked about
> >>> humanities research and who use ISI.??
> >>> ?
> >>> Cassidy wrote ?While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I
> think
> >>> we will have a much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation
> >>> Index.?? In view of Cassidy?s concerns that ?visualization may not be
> of
> >>> sufficient interest, I suggest that I contact at least one expert in
> >>> visualization, such as Katy B?rner, for feedback on aspects of
> visualization
> >>> that ?are suitable for a SIG/MET webmar.? I plan to do this tomorrow,
> so if
> >>> any officer wants to have some input on this plan of action, could you
> >>> please respond today.
> >>> ?
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sun, 31/7/11, Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Cassidy Sugimoto <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
> >>> To: "Jonathan Levitt" <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> Cc: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 14:11
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all:
> >>>
> >>> While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think we will
> have a
> >>> much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation Index as this
> is a
> >>> new thing and very interesting to not only scientometricians, but also
> >>> librarians, policy makers, and humanities scholars. It should not be
> >>> difficult to come up with a name of someone who uses ISI products for
> >>> research and who can speak to the benefit of them (what would most of
> us be
> >>> doing without the Web of Science?). Some names that come to mind
> (people who
> >>> have talked about humanities research and who use ISI):
> >>>
> >>> Howard White
> >>> Kate McCain
> >>> Bjorn Hammarfelt
> >>> Dana Hicks
> >>> Alan Porter
> >>> Loet Leydesdorff
> >>> Vincent Lariviere
> >>>
> >>> The list is much longer, but this is a start. I don't think we should
> >>> abandon this topic before we've had true brainstorming on it.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Cassidy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Following on from my posting, Cassidy wrote ?I think it would be nice
> to
> >>> have Jonathan do a 5 minute introduction to the topic, but not
> represent the
> >>> pro as he represents a commercial interest.? The topic, suggested by
> >>> Cassidy, is not related to my research and I attended neither Jonathan
> >>> Adams? talk nor Eric?s response; in addition, as we should arrange
> speakers
> >>> ASAP, it is not a good idea to have a topic on which we are struggling
> to
> >>> find even two speakers that we consider suitable.
> >>> ?
> >>> Under these circumstances, I propose switching to a topic on which
> there
> >>> are several suitable speakers including more than one from North
> America.?
> >>> ?How about some aspect of visualization? ?If you agree to this topic, I
> will
> >>> approach potential speakers.
> >>> ?
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sat, 30/7/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> Subject: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
> >>>
> >>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Date: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 20:20
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Following on from my previous email on this topic, to me the priority
> is
> >>> to settle on topic and speakers.?
> >>> ?
> >>> In her useful notes, Cassidy wrote ?The topic that received the most
> >>> discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault?s criticisms of Jonathan
> Adam?s
> >>> Book Citation Index presentation ? We discussed approaching Eric
> Archambault
> >>> to do the con, but could not think of anyone to do the pro.?? How about
> >>> Jonathan providing the pro; after all Jonathan is the person who gave
> the
> >>> Book Citation Index presentation?? Could you please give feedback soon,
> so
> >>> that I can take things forward by either approach Eric and Jonathan or
> >>> pursuing a different topic?
> >>> ?
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 26/7/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jonathan@levitt.net>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
> >>> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >
> >>> Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 9:40
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Thanks for your very helpful feedback.? On the basis of the feedback I
> >>> suggest the following revised proposal:
> >>> Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.
> >>> Date of week: Friday.
> >>> Month: September, but not September 24 (overlaps with Collnet).
> >>> Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America.
> >>> Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49
> for
> >>> others.
> >>> Moderator: Dietma has agreed to moderate; thanks very much.
> >>> ?
> >>> Judit asked whether the people I mentioned have agreed to participate;
> no,
> >>> I have not approached anyone about the possibility of speaking so we
> are
> >>> free to select speakers.
> >>> ?
> >>> Stasa asked about the format; this is still to be decided.? I would be
> >>> pleased to build on Cassidy?s experiences with SIG/ED: ?For example,
> what
> >>> format was used and what changes she would recommend.? Also, it could
> be
> >>> useful to know how many paid $49.
> >>> ?
> >>> Cassidy thanks for providing your notes from the ISSI meeting.? They
> are
> >>> very helpful and I fully understand about the delay.? You wrote ?We
> decided
> >>> to wait and ask other SIG/MET officers for their opinions?; I welcome
> >>> suggestions from the officers not only on the topic, but on other
> matters
> >>> such as the format.
> >>> ?
> >>> Best,
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>> --- On Fri, 22/7/11, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>
> >
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
> >>> To: "Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>
> >
> >>> Cc: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >>> Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 21:17
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Cassidy. That's less than I thought it would be.
> >>> Dietmar
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cassidysugimoto@gmail.com>
> >
> >>> To: "Dietmar Wolfram" <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>
> >
> >>> Cc: "Stasa Milojevic" <smilojev at indiana.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=smilojev@indiana.edu>
> >,
> >>> sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:08:12 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
> >>>
> >>> The current pricing for webinars is as follows:
> >>>
> >>> The initial flat price for having ASIS&T set up the webinar, put it on
> the
> >>> website and run registration will be $50 (paid by the SIG, Chapter,
> etc.).?
> >>>
> >>> If there is a charge associated with the webinar, ASIS&T HQ will
> collected
> >>> $1.75 per person (even if one group of people is free). Any extra
> revenue
> >>> will go directly to the sponsoring unit (SIG, Chapter, etc.).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>> ?
> >>> I like the idea of holding the webinar on a Friday as well for the
> reasons
> >>> cited. I'll be happy to serve as a moderator for the session if we find
> we
> >>> need one.
> >>> ?
> >>> What is the procedure for?mounting a webinar? I notice that go2meeting
> has
> >>> been used for others. Is there a cost for the sponsoring SIG? As a
> first
> >>> event, I think it would be great if we could offer it for free to SIG
> >>> members and students to get more buy-in to the SIG. Of course,
> this?would
> >>> not be feasible if there is a?usage charge for the platform used that
> would
> >>> need to be recouped.
> >>> ?
> >>> Dietmar
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Stasa Milojevic" <smilojev at indiana.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=smilojev@indiana.edu>
> >
> >>> To: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:24:54 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear Jonathan,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for moving this forward. I have a few suggestions and
> questions.
> >>>
> >>> I think that having a webinar during a working week might bring in
> bigger
> >>> audience. One possibility would be a Friday, since there are fewer
> classes
> >>> on Fridays (in the US), which would mean that more faculty and students
> >>> might be able to attend.
> >>>
> >>> What format do we envision? Are these two lecture-type presentations?
> What
> >>> would the role of a moderator be in that case? Who is our targeted
> audience
> >>> (bibliometrics community or general IS community)?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Stasa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/22/11 8:05 AM, Jonathan Levitt wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am a bit hampered by not having Cassidy?s notes on the SIG/MET
> meeting,
> >>> but cannot delay pressing on with SIG meters (I am going on my annual
> >>> holiday in August). ?I recall two suggestions from our discussions on
> the
> >>> Webmar debate:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> (1)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data in the
> >>> humanities.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> (2)????? The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I prefer the second proposal for two reasons: (a) we were unable to
> find a
> >>> person who we thought would defend using citation data in the
> humanities and
> >>> (b) the second topic is more closely related to our accepted panel on
> the
> >>> use of informetric information and could attract participants at our
> panel.?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My suggestions are:
> >>> Topic: The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.
> >>> Time of day: Afternoon (EST) so at to be a comfortable time of day for
> >>> members from California and Europe.
> >>> Date of week: Saturday or Sunday.
> >>> Month: September.
> >>> Speakers: One from Holland (Loet or Henk) and one from Belgium (Ronald
> or
> >>> Wolfgang).
> >>> Moderator: A particularly experienced SIG/MET officer (Dietmar? or
> Judit).
> >>> Cost: $14.99 for members of ASIST or ISSI; $49.99 for other people.
> >>> ?
> >>> Could you please let me know what you think?
> >>> ?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jonathan.
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Assistant Professor
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> >>> Indiana University Bloomington
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> >>> Assistant Professor
> >>> School of Library and Information Science
> >>> Indiana University Bloomington
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> >>> Indiana University Bloomington
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Judit Bar-Ilan
> >> Head of Department
> >> Department of Information Science
> >> Bar-Ilan University, Ramat Gan, 52900, Israel
> >> Tel: 972-3-5318351 Fax: 972-3-7384027
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> >
> > --
> > Cassidy R. Sugimoto, PhD
> > Assistant Professor
> > School of Library and Information Science
> > Indiana University Bloomington
> > http://ella.slis.indiana.edu/~sugimoto
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cassidy R. Sugimoto, PhD
> Assistant Professor
> School of Library and Information Science
> Indiana University Bloomington
> http://ella.slis.indiana.edu/~sugimoto
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