[Sigia-l] Anyone suggest a better global list?

[Skot Nelson]

I disagree with the premise that it's been absorbed, but acknowledge that a basic skill set may have and that for many organizations that "basic" skill set suffices.

Project management should never have been it's own discipline. It's a skill set, but there are times when a dedicated project manager is appropriate.

Similarly designers need to be aware of usability and information architecture concepts, but there are still Many times when a dedicated usability position may be important.

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On 2010-12-31, at 11:32, "Marianne Sweeny" <msweeny at speakeasy.net> wrote:

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> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:52:04 -0500
> From: Joe Lamantia <joe at joelamantia.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Anyone suggest a better global list?
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> Without getting into the finer points of a what constitutes a discipline,
> role, community, or skill set, I wonder what we think the lessons in this
> reality are, if any?
> 
> For example, what of the rapidly growing discipline of content strategy?
> 
> Will content strategy follow a similar arc, one we might simplify to:
>    1. coalescing around an underserved problem
>    2. growing rapidly as an area of focus and activity
>    3. stabilizing within reduced boundaries, as related / overlapping
> areas of activity mature and solidify
> 
> I'm thinking here of all the ways that information structure was used
> essentially as a 'hack' to address the interaction limitations of the early
> web environments, and how these problems are often addressed now using the
> perspectives and tools of those related disciplines like product managment,
> interaction design, and marketing.
> 
> Still, there is a distinct and recognizable architecture / architectural
> perspective necessary for the making of good experiences - one that is not
> the center of gravity for IxD, or content strategy, or product management,
> and one that many people carrying these titles don't have.  This persistence
> of need for addressing the architectural perspective would seem to be the
> prime mover behind the growth of demand for roles like UX Architect.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Todd Zaki Warfel wrote:
> 
>> I attribute it to the rest of the world has moved on to consider IA as
> part of a set of skills that a designer should have. It's not a discipline
> unto itself, but rather part of a skill set that other roles should have. 
>> 
> 
> joe at joelamantia.com | www.joelamantia.com
> 
> "Life is a process of becoming, a combination of states we have to go
> through. Where people fail is that they wish to elect a state and remain in
> it."   - Anais Nin
> 
> 
> Good Morning All
> 
> And what a delight to see a vibrant discussion on this list after such a
> long time of single mail digests that usually contained someone
> out-of-office notice. 
> 
> Todd, I could not disagree more about IA being taken over by designers and I
> hope that we are able to head that off at the pass very soon. Information
> Architecture is a very specific skill set that is acquired through a focused
> education, experience and, in the best of all worlds, both. Design is
> another contribution that is also the result of a completely different skill
> set also acquired through a focused education (different focus), experience
> (different experience) and, the same best of all worlds, both. Yes,
> designers do IA and not as well as IAs. Yes, IAs do design and likely not as
> well as collaborating with a designer in that specific role. 
> 
> Folks read a few SEO articles or go to a seminar and think that they can now
> magically do SEO. Would that it were that simple. 
> 
> So, we're user experience architects now? Okay, whatever, just as long as
> there is a role for someone who specifically addresses the structure of the
> information and how individuals access and process that information. I think
> that part of the online experience is important enough to warrant such
> attention.
> 
> m 
> 
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> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:21:04 +0000
> From: Jonathan Baker-Bates <jonathan at bakerbates.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Anyone suggest a better global list?
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> On 30 December 2010 18:52, Joe Lamantia <joe at joelamantia.com> wrote:
> 
>> This persistence of need for addressing the architectural perspective
> would
>> seem to be the prime mover behind the growth of demand for roles like UX
>> Architect.
>> 
>> 
> Does this mean we've answered Louise's question now or not?
> 
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