[Sigia-l] tagging software

[W Evans]

There are certainly a couple (mostly in very very early stage development),
that will do "tagging" of a person's content by the machine once it's in a
machine readable format. But it's not called tagging, it's called semantic
analysis - and it's not quite there yet (under very very controlled academic
circumstances where all data is normalized beforehand, I know one NLP
researcher at MIT able to get matching accuracy of machine tags to 85+%. In
the real world - it's around 50% given perfect grammar and no slang or
idioms

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Frank Shepard <fgshepard at gmail.com> wrote:

> but, in this case, the user isn't the tagger. the computer is. crowds
> don't have a monopoly on "wisdom" ...
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:50 PM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I also think one of the biggest benefits of tagging is information
> discovery
> > and findability. This means surfing down tag clouds of artifacts other
> > people tagged. The upfront cost of tagging approaches zero - especially
> when
> > distributed. If you are both the tagger and the consumer of the tag....
> > wouldn't you just create an organization scheme you can stick to?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:46 PM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Because then it's not tagging, it's generating a custom taxonomy
> without
> > the hierarchy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Frank Shepard <fgshepard at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "If a machine is going to tag something - you might as well employ
> > > > full blown natural language
> > > > processing to pull out entities and relationships from content. But
> this
> > is
> > > > not, nor can it be, the point behind tagging."
> > > >
> > > > Why not? if the context is a single user and her data, why not allow
> a
> > > > machine to generate tags? What's the objection to that?
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:19 PM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Isn't the whole point behind the CogSci of tagging of content to
> > generate
> > > > >  folksonomies is that it's done by many people and the content
> get's
> > tag
> > > > >  attributes organically through the wisdom of crowds. If a machine
> is
> > going
> > > > >  to tag something - you might as well employ full blown natural
> > language
> > > > >  processing to pull out entities and relationships from content.
> But
> > this is
> > > > >  not, nor can it be, the point behind tagging.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Sarah Dilling <sarahd at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  > Hi there,
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > I have a pile of things (internal mailing lists, if you're
> > curious).
> > > > >  > I'd like to tag them and have software generate a tag cloud for
> me.
> > > > >  > Doesn't need to be web accessible or anything, just my
> curiosity
> > and
> > > > >  > perhaps a jumping off point.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > Does anyone know of a free-standing piece of tag software that
> does
> > > > >  > this? Or do I have to abuse del.icio.us or write my own?
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > SarahD
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-- 
~ will

"No matter how beautiful,
no matter how cool your interface,
it would be better if there were less of it."
Alan Cooper
-
"Where you innovate, how you innovate,
and what you innovate are design problems"
-------------------------------------------------------
will evans
user experience architect
wkevans4 at gmail.com
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