[Sigia-l] tagging software

Frank Shepard fgshepard at gmail.com
Mon Mar 3 13:00:31 EST 2008


but, in this case, the user isn't the tagger. the computer is. crowds
don't have a monopoly on "wisdom" ...

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:50 PM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I also think one of the biggest benefits of tagging is information discovery
> and findability. This means surfing down tag clouds of artifacts other
> people tagged. The upfront cost of tagging approaches zero - especially when
> distributed. If you are both the tagger and the consumer of the tag....
> wouldn't you just create an organization scheme you can stick to?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:46 PM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Because then it's not tagging, it's generating a custom taxonomy without
> the hierarchy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Frank Shepard <fgshepard at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "If a machine is going to tag something - you might as well employ
> > > full blown natural language
> > > processing to pull out entities and relationships from content. But this
> is
> > > not, nor can it be, the point behind tagging."
> > >
> > > Why not? if the context is a single user and her data, why not allow a
> > > machine to generate tags? What's the objection to that?
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:19 PM, W Evans <wkevans4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Isn't the whole point behind the CogSci of tagging of content to
> generate
> > > >  folksonomies is that it's done by many people and the content get's
> tag
> > > >  attributes organically through the wisdom of crowds. If a machine is
> going
> > > >  to tag something - you might as well employ full blown natural
> language
> > > >  processing to pull out entities and relationships from content. But
> this is
> > > >  not, nor can it be, the point behind tagging.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Sarah Dilling <sarahd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  > Hi there,
> > > >  >
> > > >  > I have a pile of things (internal mailing lists, if you're
> curious).
> > > >  > I'd like to tag them and have software generate a tag cloud for me.
> > > >  > Doesn't need to be web accessible or anything, just my curiosity
> and
> > > >  > perhaps a jumping off point.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Does anyone know of a free-standing piece of tag software that does
> > > >  > this? Or do I have to abuse del.icio.us or write my own?
> > > >  >
> > > >  > SarahD
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> -
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> and what you innovate are design problems"
> -------------------------------------------------------
> will evans
> user experience architect
> wkevans4 at gmail.com
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