[Sigia-l] Persistence

[David Malouf]

do you ever go on a plane?

Ever work on a train that goes in a tunnel?

And mobile broadband is far from being ubiquitous as it is very
expensive: $50/mo. OVER the cost of my voice line. Uncool! Even then
performance and availability of broadband bandwidth is spotty at best.

but even then, it doesn't cover the flying scenario.

And with Mobile right now, I REALLY want persistance.

I LOVE my Gmail client on my Treo. it is so much better than the
mobile web version they have as well. But in both cases I can't "sync"
and go underground into the subway and keep reading and writing email
like I can with my 2 other mobile e-mail clients (Snapper and
Intellisync). Of course with both of those I don't have persistence
when i am connected to the internet since they are very much based on
an active push/pull model.

the other thing I'd love to have a persistent client for is my Google
Reader. there isn't a good mobile version of this app, which is sad,
but if there was I'd love that. but further I'd love a desktop
persistent app when I fly. I mean I have that with Thunderbird, but I
don't want to keep switching RSS readers as the read/unread states
don't get managed between the two which is annoying.

Scrybe is a calendar/PIM out there that uses Flash to create an
offline/online sync effect. It is a bit weird, but it generally works.
i think it is still in closed beta but you can check out the YouTube
video on their home page at www.iscrybe.com. Great stuff for many
reasons.

-- dave


On 2/14/07, Olly Wright <olly.wright at mediacatalyst.com> wrote:
> On TuesdayFeb 13, at 7:45 AM, Ziya Oz wrote:
>
> > Firefox 3 will offer support for
> > off-line applications
>
> Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see the need. Perhaps it's just
> nostalgia? The need to feel some sense of possession of our app and
> our data on our machine?
>
> Flat rate data billing for mobile is just around the corner. At that
> (imminent) moment, there is no need for offline applications, because
> we'll never need to be offline.
>
> I can certainly see some benefits of persistence to do with
> performance (not downloading the whole app each time, data caching
> etc), but I think it's a bit of a red herring to be focussing on the
> 'also works offline' aspect. Better to improve the problems with web
> apps as web apps, rather than try to make them offline apps.
>
> I do sometimes wonder if we're chasing the impossible by trying to
> make cross-platform apps that work well on multiple platforms. The
> emphasis for a given platform (osx, windows, symbian, etc) should be
> on a coherent user experience across multiple tasks on that given
> platform. Meaning that we should not aim for a coherent experience
> for our app on multiple platforms, but rather that our app plays by
> the rules on the platform it is being used on. For example, I want my
> microsoft apps to feel like OS X apps when I use my macbook, not
> windows apps (I wont start ranting about Windows CE / mobile /
> whatever it's called this week). This is only going to get more and
> more apparent as more and more internet devices appear, each with
> different UXs, form factors and input methods.
>
> This means things like RSS, and Watson ( http://www.karelia.com/
> watson/ ) are the way to go. Let the apps be device-centric and the
> web-components be content-centric (rather than presentation /
> interaction centric). Opera, Google and a few others seem to be
> planning for this possibility. And it was interesting to hear Eric
> Schmidt hint at this in his appearance at the iPhone Keynote. I
> wonder if it will play out this way.
>
> Olly Wright
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David Malouf
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