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Today's Topics:

   1. Converting from a frame based website to a non frames	based
      implementation (doug moncur)
   2. Re: Converting from a frame based website to a non	frames
      based implementation (Listera)
   3. [JOB] Information Architect - Variomatic Media, Amsterdam
      (Reinoud Bosman)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:51:07 +1000
From: doug moncur <doug.moncur at gmail.com>
Subject: [Sigia-l] Converting from a frame based website to a non
	frames	based implementation
To: sigia-l at asis.org
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hello,

I'm unashamedly after some advice.

One of my many tasks is porting our corporate website from a classic
"apache plus a bit of cgi" to our new content management solution
which doesn't do frames. Not even a little. In fact it has the same
sort of relationship with frames as vampires have with garlic.
(Actually not strictly true - there are ways to simulate frames but
they're tedious)

Now we all know frames are nasty sinful and evil. However, in 1998 no
one told the compilers of the Wagiman online dictionary -
http://www.aiatsis.gov.au/rsrch/rsrch_pp/wagiman/dict/dict.html - this
was the case. The dictionary compilers took a perfectly sensible
design decision and the design is quite functional even though it
breaks accessibility guidelines.

Anyone ever done anything similar, and if so how did you do it -
example sites are especially welcome

-Doug
-- 
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'Programmer /n./ A red-eyed, mumbling mammal capable of conversing with 
  inanimate objects.' - anonymous



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:45:14 -0400
From: Listera <listera at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Converting from a frame based website to a non
	frames based implementation
To: SIGIA-L <sigia-l at asis.org>
Message-ID: <BEFB742A.D582%listera at rcn.com>
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doug moncur:

> In fact it has the same sort of relationship with frames as vampires have with
> garlic.

Heck, it's 'best practice' today and thus must be a 'standard'. :-)

I'm not sure about the accessibility aspect without context, but there are
several ways to present variable/dynamic data as a result of a click on the
same page without a page refresh (sort of what a frame does): iframe,
hide/reveal DIVs, fetch new data from a server and write it to a DIV or a
text node of the DOM, etc. The stuff that kind of sounds like "stronger than
dirt" that you've been hearing about lately everywhere on the Internets:

<http://tinyurl.com/c6kd9>

is precisely what God created XMLHTTPRequest for. :-)

Conceptual examples: GMail and Google Suggest.

Ziya
Nullius in Verba 




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:34:15 +0200
From: Reinoud Bosman <Reinoud.Bosman at mediacatalyst.com>
Subject: [Sigia-l] [JOB] Information Architect - Variomatic Media,
	Amsterdam
To: sigia l <sigia-l at asis.org>
Message-ID: <BEFC2867.1DF0%Reinoud.Bosman at mediacatalyst.com>
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Variomatic Media is looking for an experienced user-experience
designer/information architect who is capable of conceptualizing and
defining interaction models for our customers. You will closely interact
with our designers, clientside and serverside developers.

Tasks/responsibilities:
- Target audience analysis
- Interviews & workshops
- Use cases 
- Information structures (hierarchical)
- Interaction concepts in page flows and wireframes
- Functional specification documents

Applications skills:
- Microsoft Visio 
- HTML prototyping (is a plus)

Required education (one or more):
- Interaction design
- Industrial design
- Cognitive sciences
- Psychology 

If you are a creative problem solver with analytical skills and you have
work experience at an Internet agency, please, react to this job position by
sending your CV and letter to Jan van Eijck (Jan at variomatic.biz).



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