[Sigia-l] unemployed?

[Yazdi, Reza]

"Ziya Oz" wrote

>Would you argue that 'usable' products are not possible without IAs in the
process? If the IA principles are applied (without the benefit of a
>dedicated IA) wouldn't that suffice for many/most cases?

I would say that a usable product is not possible without "IA knowledge" in
the process.  Whether that knowledge comes from a designer, an IA, a
developer, or PM for that matter would not seem to be an issue.  

"Ziya Oz" also wrote:

>I don't think I'm wrong in claiming that both designers and developers are
far more cognizant of 'usability issues' today than, say, a decade ago. If
>that's a trend, why wouldn't those two disciplines, for example, subsume an
>increasingly greater coverage of IA functions? Remember, they don't have to
>get hired or try to legitimize their position with the management; they are
already there.

As designer selling IA principles I have to agree with you.  But I also see
that most designers and most developers can not perform well on both terms.
If they can do it, you're right, it's easier to sell.  But it's still not an
easy sell. And I'm curious about how many people out there can really think
on both sides of the brain like that.  However I myself serve as proof of
your point. 

I also know a lot of designers who would place important information
somewhere inaccessible to make things pretty.  And I also know a lot of
developers who just love to make the interface mirror the structure of the
code.  So it's hard to know how fast the information will disseminate into
other fields, and if the people in those fields can even be receptive to
that information.  I may be a corner case.

On the other hand I recognize that in the future you may see more people
like me.  Perhaps this a side effect of the vast accessible amount of
information available to all of us, and you are right in saying that this
could effect certain specialized fields.  

But is IA one of those fields? For example LIS seems to be a very flexible
subject.  And flexible things have a behavior of surviving.  I think IA is
also a very flexible subject, and can be used.  But what the label of that
subject is, is arbitrary. 

Regards
reza



-----Original Message-----
From: Ziya Oz [mailto:ZiyaOz at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:29 PM
To: sigia-l
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] unemployed?

"Yazdi, Reza" wrote:
> Another answer is that you get companies which go out of business, like
> E-Stamp (which I was the creative director of), because the product was
just
> unusable.

Would you argue that 'usable' products are not possible without IAs in the
process? If the IA principles are applied (without the benefit of a
dedicated IA) wouldn't that suffice for many/most cases?

I don't think I'm wrong in claiming that both designers and developers are
far more cognizant of 'usability issues' today than, say, a decade ago. If
that's a trend, why wouldn't those two disciplines, for example, subsume an
increasingly greater coverage of IA functions? Remember, they don't have to
get hired or try to legitimize their position with the management; they are
already there.

Best,

Ziya

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