[Sigia-l] is midwest, is not midwest

[Lucie Melahn]

I have to disagree with this definition of New England. I grew up in 
Northeastern Massachusetts, and   no one knew what "pop" or "soder" was. 
The only thing we ever drank was "tonic".

My own definition of New England: Anywhere Red Sox fans predominate.
(yep, that leaves out southern Connecticut).

At 08:37 PM 4/19/2002 -0500, Louise wrote:
>David,
>
>I designate New England as any place where they say 'soder' for pop. When 
>I was in undergrad school in VT (lo, these many years) I used to have 
>arguments with New Englanders who claimed that Illinois was not the 
>midwest. They said that Colorado was the midwest. As far as they were 
>concerned, New England was New England, and everything east of the 
>Mississippi was east. (I can't remember where south started.) Also, I 
>think New York was in a special category of its own.
>
>Geography, like everything else, apparently resides in personal mental 
>schemas.
>
>Native Chicagoan (that means I'm immured to weather conditions from 
>Georgia to South Dakota),
>
>Louise Gruenberg
>
>"Heller, David" wrote:
>>
>>
>>If we want to get real chauvanistic here about these designations, most 
>>native New Yorkers (I mean the real ones from the city), probably 
>>consider New Jersey to be the Midwest ... Everything is relative.
>>
>>But the term Midwest goes back to describe those states as a block that 
>>were brought into the US as a large territory around the same time 
>>period. It actually isn't meant to include anything west of the Mississippi.
>>
>>But over time Midwest was assosciated to heartland so the early part of 
>>this century states like Ohio and Nebraska were equally agricultural. 
>>However over time, states like Ohio developed interesting metropolitan 
>>centers and relied more on industry than agriculture, while other states 
>>remained predominantly agricultural.
>>
>>I designat the midwest as anyplace they say pop for soda. ;-)
>>
>>-- dave
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Elizabeth Fuller 
>>[<mailto:ZilF at leapinliz.com>mailto:ZilF at leapinliz.com]
>>Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 4:00 PM
>>To: sigia-l at asis.org
>>Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] is midwest, is not midwest
>>
>>molly wright steenson wrote:
>> >
>> > ohio: midwest.
>>
>>Although I know that's how Ohio thinks of itself, I'm originally from 
>>Minnesota (definitely midwest) and have never understood how people as 
>>far east of the Mississippi as Ohio could possibly consider themselves 
>>part of anything with "west" in its name.  Perhaps during the early 19th 
>>century, when Ohio was really still the western frontier of the 
>>country...but not today.  (I do realize I'm in the minority on this, 
>>however, so you don't have to tell me how many people disagree with me.)
>>
>>Liz Fuller
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