[Sigia-l] Anyone suggest a better global list?

[Jonathan Baker-Bates]

On 29 December 2010 21:22, Skot Nelson <skot at penguinstorm.com> wrote:

> I never had a problem with "being disagreed with" by Ziya.
>
> The problem, as I perceived it, was:
> A) Ziya disagreed with everybody about everything
> B) The shear number of messages Ziya sent overwhelmed the list, and it was
> impossible to unlikely that he read the messages being responded to
> C) Ziya would post self-contradictory responses sometimes just days apart
> from each other (effectively refuting the idea that it was a case of
> "learning from the discussion and changing one's mind")
>
> In any case, the list remained viable for quite some time despite Ziya'a
> influence. It's disingenuous to suggest that's the only reason the list has
> died, though i've no doubt it contributed in some way.
>


Certainly, if anyone believes that SIGIA was cleared out by the posts of a
single individual (and by common consent it seems it was only one!), then
quite frankly there's no hope for the IA community if it has any aspirations
to engage with the wider world!

Happily however, your assertions that he was "disagreeing with everyone
about everything" and that the "number of messages Ziya sent overwhelmed the
list" is a matter of public record on the list archives - so let's have a
look:

http://www.info-arch.org/lists/sigia-l/index.php

The list search appears to be broken so it's a bit hard to tell, but I can't
see Ziya posting any more than anyone else was around 2004 to 2008-ish.
Dipping in to some of the threads in which he took part, I can't help
concluding that if he hadn't been there to give people an alternate
perspective, then the list would have become a ghost town long before.

And just for fun, here he (she?) is clearly agreeing with somebody and being
rather interesting with it (not to say somewhat ironic in relation to our
current conversation):

http://www.info-arch.org/lists/sigia-l/0810/0040.html

Jonathan