[Sigia-l] Sigia-l Digest, Vol 51, Issue 9

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>   1. Re: Agile & User Experience: What are the common
>      denominators? (Rich Rogan)
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> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:39:08 -0500
> From: "Rich Rogan" <jrrogan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Agile & User Experience: What are the common
>    denominators?
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> Hi Dave,
>
> The IxDA organization has many discussions regarding Agile and UX,  
> my first
> inquiry with this topic on IxDA was almost 4 years ago. Check out  
> "ixda.org"
> list serve.
>
> To give you a quick summary of the IxDA discussion, (most of this you
> probably already know):
>
> Agile is an umbrella of flexible project management, requirements  
> gathering
> and engineering methodologies, which allow for rapid/dynamic project  
> change,
> in order to realize cost savings, improved visibility, and increased  
> product
> quality.
>
> All of this looks great on paper and works pretty well in many  
> cases, except
> as Agile was for the most part invented by savvy engineers for  
> engineering
> purposes, they "forgot" about the user experience.
>
> (No kidding about the above statement, my first person experience -  
> I was in
> a Scrum training session with Jeff Sutherland, (co-founder of  
> Scrum), and
> asked him what the Scrum plan was to integrate "User Interface  
> design","User
> Interaction" and "Usability". He was at a complete loss for words,  
> he had
> never even thought about integrating UX/IA/ID in scrum.)
>
> This big hole of "non-inclusion" of the "user or user surrogate", or
> "Interface/Interaction design" at all, makes Agile methodologies  
> good for
> developing code, but not necessarily for developing good products.
>
> Then we IA/UX/ID'ers come along with our focus on good products from  
> the
> users perspective, and realize Agile can be great for Usability and  
> Design
> as well, the methodologies just need a few "UX Design plugings".
>
> And so we figure out how to integrate IA/UX/ID in the Agile  
> methodology,
> and the rest is history, (until something better/newer then Agile  
> comes
> along, (repeat at story beginning, possibly changing characters  
> around ;)).
>
> Generally the way we integrate into Agile methodologies is mirroring  
> the
> "engineering perspective" from a "design perspective", with  
> integrated user
> input, one step ahead of engineering, with the flexibility for last  
> minute
> change management, (IxDA list has all the details).
>
> Hope that helps, best of luck with your presentation :)
>
> J. Rich Rogan
>
>
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> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Dave Robertson
> <droberts at thoughtworks.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> First - apologies to subscribers of Agile-Usability and IxD for
>> cross-posting...
>>
>> My name is Dave Robertson, and although you can't see him, this is my
>> partner, John (JJ) Johnston. We've been asked to deliver a  
>> presentation
>> for friends of ThoughtWorks Canada in January (to which all of you  
>> are
>> welcome to come, but more later). JJ is an agile guy who's  
>> interested in
>> user experience and I'm the user experience guy who's interested in  
>> Agile.
>>
>>
>> We've decided to make an argument that Agile and UX share a number of
>> common values and that these values should form a foundation for  
>> better
>> integration (rather than simply trying to mash together our  
>> respective
>> techniques or chucking rocks at opposing sides).
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Joseph Rich Rogan
> President UX/UI Inc.
> http://www.jrrogan.com
>
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