[Sigia-l] Subdomain usability

[Eric Reiss]

Sorry for causing confusion, Dave. I was simply using your example.
I've never actually tried either of these URLs.

You offered two choices - www.yahoo.com/maps and maps.yahoo.com - and
I chose the former.

As far as where "home" is located, I'm not sure most users would care
about this distinction. In fact, most simply don't know how URLs
work. That's why phishing and various PayPal cons work so well. When
the site owner isn't listed first, only the experienced web users can
see through the ruse.

Cheers,
Eric

---- Original Message ----
From: dave.ixd at gmail.com
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Subdomain usability
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:19:32 -0400

>I'm not sure I follow the below.
>Where is "home" when you do yahoo.com/maps? Is it the yahoo portal
>page? that doesn't make sense to me. Maps is an independent yet
>connected application, so shouldn't it have some sense of primacy of
>its own? I don't understand the search engine stuff very much. I
>usually just go by titles.
>
>Now that being said, I type maps.yahoo.com, but I wouldn't type
>outlook.microsoft.com (unless i wanted to use otulook to get 
>microsoft
>mail). Instead I would type microsoft.com/outlook as I don't see
>"outlook" in this case as a "home", but rather as an understood part
>of a greater whole.
>
>-- dave
>
>On 6/6/06, Eric Reiss <elr at e-reiss.com> wrote:
>> I'd have to respectfully disagree with Dave on this one.
>>
>> Yes, the typing is easier, but most ordinary users - if they
>> understand URLs at all - will assume that it indicates a path. 
>Hence,
>> I prefer www.yahoo.com/maps, which suggests a path or hierarchy.
>>
>> The boring, old-fashioned form also makes it easier to spot the
>> source when skimming URLs in search results. And it makes it a LOT
>> easier to butcher a URL when the site has magically transported you
>> someplace you don't want to be on another server.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Eric
>> e-reiss & associates
>> copenhagen, denmark
>> www.e-reiss.com
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>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: dave.ixd at gmail.com
>> To: sigia-l at asis.org
>> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Subdomain usability
>> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:33:35 -0400
>>
>> >I love subdomains and usually "assume" they exist and love when 
>they
>> >do.
>> >yahoo uses them very well, and I think they are great.
>> >why? b/c typing www.yahoo.com/maps is longer than typing
>> >maps.yahoo.com
>> >
>> >but also, it makes a clearer association that the functionality is
>> >somehow independent, that it has a "root" of its own. i don't mean
>> >that in the technical sense, but in the this is a "home page" 
>landing
>> >page sense.
>> >
>> >-- dave
>> >
>> >
>> >On 6/6/06, Skot Nelson <skot at penguinstorm.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Jun-5-2006, at 12:11 PM, Kenneth Bryson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Ultimately, they need to make sense and can be used in the 
>same
>> >> > fashion
>> >> > as redirects.
>> >>
>> >> They need to be integrated into a clear, consistent 
>communications
>> >> strategy as well. It must be *obvious* what content would, for
>> >> example, be on the investor.bank.com zone versus the 
>www.bank.com
>> >zone.
>> >>
>> >> Why would I bookmark one and not the other?
>> >> --
>> >> Scott Nelson
>> >> skot (at) penguinstorm (dot) com
>> >> http://www.penguinstorm.com/
>> >>
>> >> skype. skot.nelson
>> >>
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