[Sigia-l] "Spam and be punished"

Alexander Johannesen alexander.johannesen at gmail.com
Tue Nov 9 01:20:55 EST 2004


> > > What was it that Radisson SAS actually did?

Not sure if the list will pass me through this email, and if anyone
can pass this on, I'll be happy if it doesn't show up;

Anyways, what's been done is using techniques known as Shadow Domains
with Doorway pages. They are pages tailored to be accessed by
searchbots only. People who manually go there will be routed by
JavaScript, but search engines will not.

Example from http://www.eguiden.no/cparticle188538-575.html ;

Search Google for "konferansehotell i oslo" and you'll get at no. 1:

 konferansehotell i oslo, Radisson SAS Hoteller i Oslo.
 konferansehotell i oslo:: Søker du hotell eller konferanshotell i
Oslo? Reservere   hotellrom ... eller ferie. konferansehotell i oslo.
...
 oslo.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/ phrase/konferansehotell_i_oslo.html
- 7k -   Cached - Similar pages

Clicking this link gets you to http://oslo.radissonsas.com/norsk/index.php
and NOT http://oslo.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/
phrase/konferansehotell_i_oslo.html

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It is "http://oslo.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/
phrase/konferansehotell_i_oslo.html" which makes the Google rating,
and hence using the JavaScript redirecting is cheating the system;
what you searched for is only a proxy for something else, and this
something else is decided by someone NOT Google. So if you search for
"radissonsas com phrase" and remove the 'www's, you're left with
phrase pages. Here are *some* examples from one domain;

 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/ lang-deutsch/phrase/kopenhagen_hotels.html
 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/lang-deutsch/ phrase/hotels_in_kopenhagen.html
 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/ lang-deutsch/phrase/kopenhagen_hotels.html
 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/lang-deutsch/ phrase/hotels_in_kopenhagen.html
 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/lang-deutsch/phrase/
 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/phrase/
 copenhagen.radissonsas.com/lang-dansk/phrase/

And here is a *short* list of other domains with equally many phrases pages;

 stockholm.radissonsas.com/lang-english/ phrase/…
 helsinki.radissonsas.com/ lang-english/phrase/…
 vienna.radissonsas.com/lang-english/phrase/
 dublin.radissonsas.com/lang-english/ phrase/…
 manchester.radissonsas.com/lang-svenska/ phrase/…
 bergen.radissonsas.com/ lang-dansk/phrase/…
 stavanger.radissonsas.com/ lang-norsk/phrase/…
 dublin.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/ phrase/…
 glasgow.radissonsas.com/lang-english/phrase/..
 london.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/phrase/…
 london.radissonsas.com/lang-deutsch/phrase/…
 hamburg.radissonsas.com/lang-francais/ phrase/…
 glasgow.radissonsas.com/lang-english/ phrase/…
 amsterdam.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/ phrase/…
 berlin.radissonsas.com/lang-norsk/ phrase/…
 royal.stavanger.radissonsas.com/lang-..
 portman.london.radissonsas.com/lang-..

And so forth. These all link to eachother to create a network of
trying to fool the googlebombs detectors Google uses. This deliberate
folly is what made Google see red. SAS Radisson doesn't agree, of
course.

Alexander
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"Ultimately, all things are known because you want to believe you know."
                                                        - Frank Herbert
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