[Sigmetrics] Brexit for Institutional Repositories?

Tue Aug 9 10:03:02 EDT 2016

This exchange on jisc-repositories (about abandoning institutional
repositories for Elsevier's "PURE" and/or for CRISes) is so outrageous that
I could not resist a pause in my solemn self-imposed silence:

(1) I will assume (out of charity) that George McGregor was being supremely
ironic when he quipped that Elsevier "Single handily inspired the global
Open Access movement" and that

(2) Elsevier's Alicia Wise has a tin ear for irony and took it as a
compliment -- and a cue for some free advertising.

(3) If UK universities are foolish and thoughtless enough to heed the siren
call of "PURE" and again let in Elsevier's latest Trojan Horse (instead of
just coupling CRIS functionality with their IRs) then (as in some other
recent supremely foolish UK decisions) they will get exactly what's coming
to them.

*Elsevier's PURE: self-interest and exploitation*
<http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1164-.html>

My instinct tells me wiser (sic) heads will prevail (but I've been
over-optimistic before...)

*Stevan Harnad*
Erstwhile Archivangelist Seconded to Higher Calling
<https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201501/doing-the-right-thing-interview-stevan-harnad>

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) <A.Wise at elsevier.com>
wrote:

> Hi George,
>
>
>
> Open access is a great thing – I was actively supporting it while working
> at the JISC long before I joined Elsevier to do the same.  While I don’t
> think it is correct to say that our company has single handedly inspired
> the global OA movement, would that in fact be a bad thing?  Elsevier:
>
>
>
> ·         actively engages with and supports OA in all its forms: gold,
> green, platinum, data, etc.
>
> ·         actively supports researchers and research institutions and
> research funders, and it is in this context we provide an array of services
> to support the research lifecycle (including scholarly comms).
>
> ·         has highly professional and skilled business/system analysts,
> AND we also engage with and listen to others in the research community.
>
> ·         is actively engaged in initiatives that support the development
> of and interoperability with repositories.
>
>
>
> I don’t want to take up listserv space with what might be perceived as
> marketing messages, but very happy to share additional information about
> any and all of this offline.  And happy to talk with anyone at any time
> about partnerships and projects to advance open access.  We’ll achieve open
> science further and faster by working together!
>
>
>
> With kind wishes,
>
> Alicia
>
>
>
> Dr Alicia Wise
>
> Director of Access and Policy
>
> Elsevier I The Boulevard I Langford Lane I Kidlington I Oxford I OX5 1GB
>
> M: +44 (0) 7823 536 826 I E: a.wise at elsevier.com
>
> *Twitter: @wisealic*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Repositories discussion list [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES@
> JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *George Macgregor
> *Sent:* 09 August 2016 08:34
> *To:* JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: changing IR software
>
>
>
> Hello all - I was a little guarded in my previous response but I would
> like to echo David's comments and offer some personal views.  Leaving aside
> the usual repository arguments for maintaining an IR in tandem with a CRIS,
> the philosophical arguments increasingly appear far more persuasive.  Some
> of these were rehearsed by PASTEUR4OA recently (http://bit.ly/2b5eo92). I
> think institutions need to be asking themselves if they want to use a
> system such as PURE controlled by a company that:
>
>
>
> * Single handily inspired the global Open Access movement?
>
> * Has always vehemently opposed Open Access?
>
> * Has recently acquired SSRN and other "open" services (allegedly) for the
> purposes of controlling the scholarly communications lifecycle?
>
> * Has been accused of allegedly purging SSRN of supposedly "illegal" open
> content?
>
> * Uses user group and working group mechanisms as a substitute for
> dedicated business and system analysts. In essence, staff time of people
> like me and you being used to make a proprietary system better which
> Elsevier then sells back to public research organisations?
>
> * Appears not to value the development of repository functionality or
> interoperability with the systems that are central to repositories or Open
> Access?
>
>
>
> Thankfully we elected to maintain our IR (although I still harbour
> concerns about its relationship with PURE).  But if I were an institution
> surveying the landscape as it is now, I would be exercising extreme caution
> before considering some of these tools as a substitute for an open source
> repository platform.  As David notes, “open access is a consonant with the
> open source philosophy”!
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> George
>
>
>
> --
>
> George Macgregor
>
> Information Services Directorate | University of Strathclyde
>
> Curran Building | 101 St James Road
>
> Glasgow G4 ONS
>
> Tel: 0141 548 3496
>
> Email: george.macgregor at strath.ac.uk
>
> Web: http://personal.strath.ac.uk/george.macgregor/
>
> Twitter: @g3om4c <https://twitter.com/g3om4c>
>
> [image: iD icon]orcid.org/0000-0002-8482-3973
> --
>
> *Ensure that your research outputs are eligible for submission in the next
> REF.  *Authors' accepted manuscripts of journal articles and conference
> proceedings accepted after 01 April 2016 must be deposited in PURE as soon
> as possible after acceptance for publication – email
> openaccess at strath.ac.uk for further information or visit
> http://www.strath.ac.uk/openaccess.
>
>
>
> [image: twitter logo] <https://twitter.com/StrathclydeOA>
>
> --
>
> The University of Strathclyde is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC015263
>
>
>
> *From:* Repositories discussion list [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES@
> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *Bev
> Jones
> *Sent:* 09 August 2016 13:06
> *To:* JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: changing IR software
>
>
>
> Dear List,
>
>
>
> Agreeing with you David; as there are standards for repositories (I’ve
> linked to the TRAC checklist and Neil Jacob’s blog about Jisc’s work on
> this just as examples), it should be straightforward to compare the part of
> a CRIS which purports to perform this role against the criteria.
> Governance and accountability might be areas where there is variance.
>
>
>
> https://scholarlycommunications.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2016/05/31/
> what-is-a-repository/
>
> http://www.crl.edu/sites/default/files/d6/attachments/pages/trac_0.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Bev Jones!
>
> Research Repository and Information Officer
>
> University of Lincoln Library x6721
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Repositories discussion list [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES@
> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *David
> Kane
> *Sent:* 09 August 2016 12:48
> *To:* JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* Re: changing IR software
>
>
>
> Maintaining a separate repository may be a pain, but remember the core
> mission of a repository is open access and we must think about how best to
> support that mission.  To me the open access idea is consonant with the
> open source philosophy, the unfettered advancement of human knowledge, and
> that old fashioned notion of liberty.
>
>
>
> I am wary of the involvement of powerful publishing concerns in the CRIS
> space who would promise to take away the ‘pain’ of managing a separate
> repository.  I see a possible conflict of interest.  Caveat emptor.
>
>
>
> David.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Bill Worthington <w.j.worthington at HERTS.AC.UK>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 9, 2016 10:09 AM
> *To: *JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject: *Re: changing IR software
>
>
>
> Hi Melissa,
>
>
>
> At Herts we choose to maintain a separate repository too. We use Dspace. I
> would say its main advantage is that it is platform we control and can
> develop to suit new requirements as they come along. The downside is the
> connector from Pure, which has proven unreliable, is incomplete and very
> low on Elsevier’s priority (or that of the Pure working group, in terms of
> the number of people who use it).
>
>
>
> best wishes,  Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Dr. W J Worthington
>
> Research and Scholarly Communications Manager, Library and Computing
> Services
>
> University of Hertfordshire
>
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> W: http://go.herts.ac.uk/bill_worthington
>
> Twitter: @wjworthington
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> Skype:  wjworthington
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>
>
> *From: *Repositories discussion list <JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> on behalf of George Macgregor <george.macgregor at STRATH.AC.UK>
> *Reply-To: *George Macgregor <george.macgregor at STRATH.AC.UK>
> *Date: *Monday, 8 August 2016 at 13:42
> *To: *"JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >
> *Subject: *Re: changing IR software
>
>
>
> Hello Melissa,
>
>
>
> This is a recurring question and one which was discussed on the UKCoRR
> list a few month ago.  Nick Sheppard threw up a blog post summarising the
> discussions, which you might find useful: http://ukcorr.org/2015/11/27/
> cris-and-retirement-of-repositories/
>
>
>
> At Strathclyde we have chosen to maintain EPrints in parallel with PURE,
> for many of the reasons given in the above blog post.  This configuration
> is kept under constant review but, at time of writing, PURE offers limited
> repository functionality and/or compliance with the standards and protocols
> we require.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> George
>
> --
>
> George Macgregor
>
> Information Services Directorate | University of Strathclydets
>
> Curran Building | 101 St James Road
>
> Glasgow G4 ONS
>
> Tel: 0141 548 3496
>
> Email: george.macgregor at strath.ac.uk
>
> Web: http://personal.strath.ac.uk/george.macgregor/
>
> Twitter: @g3om4c <https://twitter.com/g3om4c>
>
> [image: D icon]orcid.org/0000-0002-8482-3973
> --
>
> *Ensure that your research outputs are eligible for submission in the next
> REF.  *Authors' accepted manuscripts of journal articles and conference
> proceedings accepted after 01 April 2016 must be deposited in PURE as soon
> as possible after acceptance for publication – email
> openaccess at strath.ac.uk for further information or visit
> http://www.strath.ac.uk/openaccess.
>
>
>
> [image: witter logo] <https://twitter.com/StrathclydeOA>
>
> --
>
> The University of Strathclyde is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC015263
>
>
>
> *From:* Repositories discussion list [mailto:JISC-REPOSITORIES@
> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *Melissa
> Cole
> *Sent:* 08 August 2016 12:16
> *To:* JISC-REPOSITORIES at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:* changing IR software
>
>
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> We are currently reviewing our institutional repository software as part
> of a larger CRIS system upgrade and wondered if anyone had changed their IR
> software or discontinued using their IR in preference for an integrated
> package like PURE.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Melissa.
>
>
>
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>
> *Dr Melissa Cole *
>
>
>
> Research Outputs and Visibility Manager
>
> *T* +44(0)1895 266017 | *E* melissa.cole at brunel.ac.uk
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>
>
> *Brunel University London*
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