Paper on scientometrics
David Wojick
dwojick at CRAIGELLACHIE.US
Sat Jul 27 15:05:09 EDT 2013
Our work and that of several other groups was terminated when DOE made the
high level decision that understanding scientific communication was not a
worthwhile research topic, even though they claim that they want to speed
up the transitioning of the many billions of dollars in research that they
fund annually. So I hope your work continues as these are important metrics.
David
At 02:38 PM 7/27/2013, you wrote:
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>Thank you David, I was aware of your work with Bettencourt. In fact our
>model is quite consistent with your description of transition in author
>network structure. In both cases events correspond to changes in local
>density/communities.Â
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>On Saturday, July 27, 2013, David Wojick wrote:
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>Being equally shameless I will point to two studies done by my team when I
>was with DOE OSTI. They identify a topological transition in author
>network structure which seems to characterize the transition to a new
>paradigm. The transition pattern appears to be universal.
>
>1.
><http://www.osti.gov/innovation/research/diffusion/BettencourtKaiser_TopologicalTransition_OSTI.pdf>General
>Critical Properties of the Dynamics of Scientific Discovery (994-KB PDF)
>by LuÃs M.A. Bettencourt and David I. Kaiser, 2008,
><http://www.osti.gov/innovation/research/diffusion/OSTIBettencourtKaiser.pdf>http://www.osti.gov/innovation/research/diffusion/OSTIBettencourtKaiser.pdf
>and
>
>2.
><http://www.osti.gov/innovation/research/diffusion/OSTIBettencourtKaiser.pdf>The
>dynamics of scientific discovery: the spread of ideas and structural
>transitions in collaboration networks (759-KB PDF) by LuÃs M. A.
>Bettencourt, et al., 2011,
><http://www.osti.gov/innovation/research/diffusion/BettencourtKaiser_TopologicalTransition_OSTI.pdf>http://www.osti.gov/innovation/research/diffusion/BettencourtKaiser_TopologicalTransition_OSTI.pdf
>
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>David Wojick
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>At 02:01 PM 7/27/2013, you wrote:
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>>I have been reading with great interest the discussion on what
>>constitutes a revolution in science. If I am allowed a shameless plug, I
>>suspect thatà list members may find relevant to the discussionà aÃ
>>recent paper in which we attempted a quantitativeà exploration ofà the
>>question of how new disciplines emerge, and in particular if this process
>>can be explained in terms of the social interactions among scholars
>>rather than by "revolutions," such asà new discoveries. Feedback welcome.Ã
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Social Dynamics of Science
>><http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/srep01069>http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/srep01069
>>
>>
>>The birth and decline of disciplines are critical to science and society.
>>How do scientific disciplines emerge? No quantitative model to date
>>allows us to validate competing theories on the different roles of
>>endogenous processes, such as social collaborations, and exogenous
>>events, such as scientific discoveries. Here we propose an agent-based
>>model in which the evolution of disciplines is guided mainly by social
>>interactions among agents representing scientists. Disciplines emerge
>>from splitting and merging of social communities in a collaboration
>>network. We find that this social model can account for a number of
>>stylized facts about the relationships between disciplines, scholars, and
>>publications. These results provide strong quantitative support for the
>>key role of social interactions in shaping the dynamics of science. While
>>several âscience of scienceâ theories exs exist, this is the first
>>account for the emergence of disciplines that is validated on the basis
>>of empirical data.
>>
>>On Friday, July 26, 2013, David Wojick wrote:
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>>There are many sorts of scientific revolutions and those driven by new
>>observational technologies are a specific case. Altmetrics are perhaps
>>analogous to the revolution of microscopy. The fundamental gestalt change
>>to biology was recognizing that the observed world of life forms was
>>extremely limited. Similarly, we can now see scientific activity in a lot
>>of new ways. The fundamental question that now arises is what are we seeing?
>>More precisely, what aspect of scientific activity does each metric
>>measure, including the IF? The fundamental concept that has gone out of
>>focus is impact. I expect we will find lots of different kinds of impact,
>>with a new deep understanding of science. That is the revolution in
>>progress. How far it gets no one knows. Many revolutions fail.
>>David Wojick
>>At 10:06 AM 7/26/2013, you wrote:
>>>A hallmark of a scientific revolution in Kuhn's framework is a gestalt
>>>switch of the mindset.ÃÂ
>>>I am curious whether anyone can point to tangible research findings that
>>>fundamentally contradict to the existing body of knowledge in scientometrics.
>>>Chaomei Chen
>>>
>>>
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>>>[dwojick at CRAIGELLACHIE.US]
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>>>Subject: Re: [SIGMETRICS] Paper on scientometrics
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>>As a Kuhnian I tend to agree with Lutz. However I think taxonomy change
>>is a poor metaphor for the concept confusions that characterize
>>scientific revolutions. New paradigms do not come fully formed so the
>>early stages are signaled by the high degree of confusion, which we
>>certainly see with altmetrics. Moreover new technologies frequently
>>create scientific revolutions and social media provide a new
>>observational technology.
>>It is not that there is a new taxonomy but rather that the taxonomy of
>>science metrics has gone fuzzy, thus creating the so-called
>>incommensurability. This conceptual confusion is not reflected in the
>>literature because one does not publish confusions and there is as yet no
>>new normal science here, to say what is publishable. It is everywhere
>>apparent however in the meta-level discourse, where we talk and argue
>>about the new metrics and what they mean.
>>David Wojick
>>On Jul 26, 2013, at 1:18 AM, "Bornmann, Lutz" <lutz.bornmann at GV.MPG.DE >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Dear Loet,
>>>Incommensurabilities between scientists emerge if they use different
>>>taxonomies. Different taxonomies are as a rule combined with different
>>>exemplars, theories, methods etc.
>>>I am not sure whether altmetrics can directly serve as exemplars. In my
>>>opinion, an exemplar for the new paradigm would be the very successfully
>>>demonstrated and by the community accepted use of altmetrics to measure
>>>a specific kind of societal impact. This proposed use could be
>>>transferred then to similar other situations.
>>>Yes, I agree that the new taxonomy in scientometrics has its origins
>>>outside the discipline. However, because questions of research
>>>evaluation are at the core of scientometricians' work and research
>>>evaluation is frequently driven from outside, this is typical for our
>>>discipline. It is typical that we react on forces from outside.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Lutz
>>>Von meinem iPad gesendet
>>>Am 25.07.2013 um 20:42 schrieb "Loet Leydesdorff" <loet at LEYDESDORFF.NET >:
>>>
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>>>>Dear Lutz,
>>>>Ã
>>>>Kuhn (1962, 1969) defined revolutions and paradigms in terms of
>>>>exemplars and changes in the cultural matrix. In later work (e.g., the
>>>>Thalheimer lectures), indeed, this is further elaborated into taxonomic
>>>>changes in the semantics. I agree that it is not just a change in
>>>>methods or subjects of study.
>>>>Ã
>>>>âAltmetricsâ could pld perhaps serve as an ean exemplar if it
>>>>was a lead example for a class of studies. Perhaps, the h-index or JIF
>>>>have functioned more like exemplars. The cultural matrix, in my
>>>>opinion, has been more stabilizing than destabilizing during the last
>>>>ten years (Milojevic & Leydesdorff, 2013). We did not find a crisis
>>>>(preceding a paradigm change). On the contrary, the specialty structure
>>>>became more robust.
>>>>Ã
>>>>Staa Milojevià & Loet Leydesdorfforff,
>>>><http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3406>Information Metrics
>>>>(iMetrics<http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3406>): A Research Specialty with a
>>>>Socio-Cognitive Identity? Scientometrics
>>>>95<http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3406>(1) (2013) 141-157;
>>>><http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3406>http://arxiv.org/abs/1209.3406 .
>>>>Ã
>>>>The new questions, in my opinion, find their origins outside the
>>>>discipline, namely, in new technological possibilities (social media)
>>>>and in acute budget pressures (because of austerity) that are
>>>>translated by S&T policy-makers into new searches for the legitimation
>>>>of science. A Kuhnian crisis, however, would be endogenous.
>>>>Ã
>>>>Best,
>>>>Loet
>>>>Ã
>>>>PS. Perhaps, we live in incommensurable realities? J
>>>>Ã
>>>>Loet Leydesdorff
>>>>Professor, University of Amsterdam
>>>>Amsterdam School of Communications Research (ASCoR)
>>>>Kloveniersburgwal 48, 1012 CX Amsterdam
>>>>loet at leydesdorff.net ;
>>>><http://www.leydesdorff.net/>http://www.leydesdorff.net/
>>>>Honorary Professor, <http://www.sussex.ac.uk/spru/>SPRU, University of
>>>>Sussex; Visiting Professor,
>>>><http://www.istic.ac.cn/Eng/brief_en.html>ISTIC, Beijing;
>>>><http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en>http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYAAAAJ&hl=en
>>>>ÃÂ
>>>>Ã
>>>>From: ASIS&T Special Interest Group on Metrics [
>>>>mailto:SIGMETRICS at LISTSERV.UTK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bornmann, Lutz
>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:13 PM
>>>>To: SIGMETRICS at LISTSERV.UTK.EDU
>>>>Subject: Re: [SIGMETRICS] Paper on scientometrics
>>>>Ã
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>>>>Thanks for your emails!
>>>>Ã
>>>>Dear Loet,
>>>>Ã
>>>>As I explain in the Letter, a method change should not be described as
>>>>a revolution (e.g., the use of percentiles instead of mean-based
>>>>indicators for normalization of impact). Method changes are part of
>>>>normal science. Kuhn defines revolutions as taxonomic changes in his
>>>>later publications. This leads to incommensurabilities between
>>>>scientists. In the field of scientometrics, measuring scientific impact
>>>>is no longer solely defined as analysing citations in papers. Today, a
>>>>scientometrician has to explain which kind of impact is measured and
>>>>how it is measured. I believe we will see a phase of normal science in
>>>>scientometrics, where the reliable and valid methods are developed to
>>>>measure the different kinds of societal impact. Measuring societal
>>>>impact by using case studies is unsatisfying (as it is mostly done today).
>>>>Ã
>>>>Benoit,
>>>>Revolutions do not depend on a specific origin. It is not necessary
>>>>that the revolution is rooted in science itself. For me, the program of
>>>>the ISSI 2013 conference was a validation of my claim. There was one
>>>>session on societal impact measurements and two sessions on altmetrics.
>>>>I believe that altmetrics will play a significant role in measuring
>>>>societal impact.
>>>>Ã
>>>>Best,
>>>>Ã
>>>>Lutz
>>>>Ã
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>>>>Lutz,
>>>>Ã
>>>>Thanks for sharing this piece with us.
>>>>Ã
>>>>However, I am wondering if scientometrics is really in a revolutionary
>>>>phase. I see very, very few changes. The revolution you points to is a
>>>>wish (not necessarily for the worse, by the way), encouraged and
>>>>supported by governments, and more often than not conducted in public
>>>>and international agencies or by researchers as consultants to
>>>>governments. On impacts, the scientometric literature has changed
>>>>little, not yet.
>>>>Ã
>>>>benǫ̮t
>>>>Ã
>>>>Benǫ̮t Godin
>>>>Professeur
>>>>INRS (Montreal, Canada)
>>>>tel.: 1 438 396 3242
>>>>courriel: benoit.godin at ucs.inrs.ca
>>>>site web: <http://www.csiic.ca/>www.csiic.ca
>>>>Ã
>>>>Ã
>>>>From: ASIS&T Special Interest Group on Metrics [
>>>>SIGMETRICS at LISTSERV.UTK.EDU] On Behalf Of Loet Leydesdorff
>>>>[loet at LEYDESDORFF.NET]
>>>>Sent: July 25, 2013 11:26 AM
>>>>To: SIGMETRICS at LISTSERV.UTK.EDU
>>>>Subject: Re: [SIGMETRICS] Paper on scientometrics
>>>>Ã
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>>>>
>>>>Dear Lutz:
>>>>Ã
>>>>Whereas you may be right that new questions are asked of
>>>>scientometrics, it does not follow that scientometrics has changed
>>>>fundamentally in its methods. That needs to be proven empirically.
>>>>Perhaps, the changes are much more gradual (that is, as in normal science).
>>>>Ã
>>>>Best,
>>>>Loet
>>>>Ã
>>>>Ã
>>>>From: ASIS&T Special Interest Group on Metrics [
>>>>mailto:SIGMETRICS at LISTSERV.UTK.EDU] On Behalf Of Bornmann, Lutz
>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:19 PM
>>>>To: SIGMETRICS at LISTSERV.UTK.EDU
>>>>Subject: [SIGMETRICS] Paper on scientometrics
>>>>Ã
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Is there currently a scientific revolution in scientometrics?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The author of this letter to the editor would like to set forth the
>>>>argument that scientometrics is currently in a phase in which a
>>>>taxonomic change, and hence a revolution, is taking place. One of the
>>>>key terms in scientometrics is scientific impact which nowadays is
>>>>understood to mean not only the impact on science but the impact on
>>>>every area of society.
>>>>Ã
>>>>Available at:
>>>><http://arxiv.org/abs/1307.6307>http://arxiv.org/abs/1307.6307
>>>>Ã
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>>>>Ã
>>>>Dr. Dr. habil. Lutz Bornmann
>>>>Division for Science and Innovation Studies
>>>>Administrative Headquarters of the Max Planck Society
>>>>Hofgartenstr. 8
>>>>80539 Munich
>>>>Tel.: +49 89 2108 1265
>>>>Mobil: +49 170 9183667
>>>>Email: bornmann at gv.mpg.de
>>>>WWW: <http://www.lutz-bornmann.de/>www.lutz-bornmann.de
>>>>ResearcherID:
>>>><http://www.researcherid.com/rid/A-3926-2008>http://www.researcherid.com/rid/A-3926-2008
>>>>
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