Ranking Web of Universities: 2010 July edition

Isidro F. Aguillo isidro.aguillo at CCHS.CSIC.ES
Fri Feb 26 04:00:40 EST 2010


Dear Christina:

In fact these are very good examples of the contrary. The world famous 
Arxiv repository although located in Cornell is not using cornell.edu 
domain. Regarding PSU we decided to exclude CiteSeerX from the 
university counting because they use the domain psu.edu bit remember 
that the full papers in CiteSeer are only linked with the original file 
en the publishing institution. Tennessee Fayetteville also hosting 
CiteSeerX , Chicago and its MUSE Project and the European Trier 
University (DBLP) have been also recalculated, but none of these cases 
can be considered bad practices. On the contrary they are wonderful 
initiatives that perhaps should enjoy independent webdomains.

Best regards,


Pikas, Christina K. escribió:
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> The two most obvious are Penn State and Cornell. Surely they receive special treatment?
>
> Christina Pikas
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [SIGMETRICS] Ranking Web of Universities: 2010 July edition
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> Dear Jean Claude:
>
> We have evidence from some universities from two different countries. We 
> mentioned one specific (very important) university in our previous 
> ranking and their response was very aggressive for later accepting that 
> at least 3750 papers in the repository does not belong to their own 
> scholars. Our figures are larger and checking it is very easy (in 
> private I can point you some candidates).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-Claude Guédon escribió:
>   
>> Adminstrative info for SIGMETRICS (for example unsubscribe): 
>> http://web.utk.edu/~gwhitney/sigmetrics.html I find all this very 
>> amusing. As soon as you establish measurements of quality in one way 
>> or another, you are bound to see people adapt to it to their 
>> advantage. For example, because editors want to increase the impact 
>> factors of their journals, they increase the number of review articles 
>> and they ask their authors to cite articles from the journal itself. 
>> We must never forget the ancient links between our species and chimps 
>> - a point that Macchiavelli had clearly understood without knowing the 
>> fact.
>>
>> This said, there is an accusation here: librarians are said to store 
>> papers originating from outside their institution to improve its 
>> rankings in webometrics... While credible, is this allegation proved 
>> or even provable ? I would love to see real proofs of this beyond 
>> anecdotal rumours (sometimes aka urban myth). Which universities? 
>> Since when? Etc...
>>
>> The long and the short of this is that there does not exist a simple 
>> way to measure quality. Those who believe there is either delude 
>> themselves, or manipulate others' beliefs.
>>
>> Jean-Claude Guédon
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 10:55 +0100, Isidro F. Aguillo a écrit :
>>     
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>>>
>>> Dear Dr. Kuhn:
>>>
>>> Thank you for your kind message. As supporters of Open Access 
>>> initiatives, we are in favor of these situations you described. However 
>>> our paragraphs refer to a completely different situation: librarians 
>>> that are adding THOUSANDS of papers of authors unrelated with their 
>>> organization and without any copyright agreement with them. Even worst, 
>>> the reason for doing that is for increasing their web ranking.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Heinrich C. Kuhn escribió:
>>>       
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>>>>
>>>> First of all: Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Second: at http://www.webometrics.info/
>>>> it is written:
>>>> "
>>>> We have discovered several universities that are hosting large 
>>>> numbers of academic papers authored by scientist that do not 
>>>> belong to those institutions. This is not only unfair, but it 
>>>> clearly violates copyright of the involved papers.
>>>> "
>>>> Please be aware that this is not necessarily so: Such papers
>>>> may be hosted where they are hosted because
>>>> -   The author of that paper wished then paper to be 
>>>>     hosted at the hosting institution and the hosting
>>>>     institution acted on his wish.
>>>> -   The license (CC or other) of the paper permits such
>>>>     hosting and the archive in question is an archive
>>>>     for a certain subject.
>>>> -   The author once was a member of the hosting institution.
>>>>
>>>>    Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Heinrich C. Kuhn
>>>>
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>>>>         
>>>     
>>>       
>> -- 
>> Jean-Claude Guédon
>> Professeur titulaire
>> Littérature comparée
>> Université de Montréal
>>         
>>
>>     
>
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