The communication of meaning in social systems; preprint version available

[Loet Leydesdorff]

Dear David, 
 
Thank you for your interest. I read your paper at the Internet and although
coming from very different direction, indeed, we seem to be aiming at
similar things. My background may be more pro-Shannon than yours. 
 
Best wishes,  Loet
 
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Loet Leydesdorff 
Amsterdam School of Communications Research (ASCoR)
Kloveniersburgwal 48, 1012 CX Amsterdam
Tel.: +31-20- 525 6598; fax: +31-20- 525 3681 
 <mailto:loet at leydesdorff.net> loet at leydesdorff.net ;
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From: ASIS&T Special Interest Group on Metrics
[mailto:SIGMETRICS at listserv.utk.edu] On Behalf Of David E. Wojick
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 7:12 PM
To: SIGMETRICS at listserv.utk.edu
Subject: Re: [SIGMETRICS] The communication of meaning in social systems;
preprint version available


Dear Loet,

It is delightful to get something like this on a holiday. I take it this is
what the phenomenology of meaning looks like these days. Not that I pretend
to understand phenomenology, so please correct me if I am wrong. I also take
it that the interpretation of the parameters in the very interesting
equations, as well as the technical concepts being used, is to be found in
the cited references.

Since I have also presented a theory of the nature of information here, I
thought it appropriate that I speculate upon the difference between this
body of work and my own.
CF:
http://www.bydesign.com/powervision/Mathematics_Philosophy_Science/informati
on.html

My work derives from the tradition of analytical philosophy and mathematical
logic begun by Russell and Wittgenstein. I suggest that it is looking at
meaning in a very narrow sense, as exemplified by the atomic proposition.
The phenomenological tradition is looking at meaning in a very broad sense,
what it is to be meaningful if you like.

The human condition is rich enough to accommodate both approaches and so I
do not see any disagreement here between us. The question is if there is any
connection?

Best regards,

David



The  <http://www.leydesdorff.net/meaning0704/index.htm> communication of
meaning in social systems

 <http://www.leydesdorff.net/meaning0704/meaning0704.pdf> pdf-version

Abstract

The sociological domain is different from the psychological one insofar as
meaning can be communicated at the supra-individual level (Schütz, 1932;
Luhmann, 1984). The computation of anticipatory systems enables us to
distinguish between these domains in terms of weakly and strongly
anticipatory systems with a structural coupling between them (Maturana,
1978). Anticipatory systems have been defined as systems which entertain
models of themselves (Rosen, 1984). The model provides meaning to the
modeled system from the perspective of hindsight, that is, by advancing
along the time axis towards possible future states. Strongly anticipatory
systems construct their own future states (Dubois, 1998a and b). The
dynamics of weak and strong anticipations can be simulated as incursion and
hyper-incursion, respectively. Hyper-incursion generates “horizons of
meaning” (Husserl, 1929) among which choices have to be made by incursive
agency.

 
Loet Leydesdorff & Sander Franse
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Amsterdam School of Communications Research (ASCoR)
Kloveniersburgwal 48, 1012 CX Amsterdam
Tel.: +31-20- 525 6598; fax: +31-20- 525 3681
loet at leydesdorff.net ; http://www.leydesdorff.net/

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