[Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers

Cassidy Sugimoto cassidysugimoto at gmail.com
Sun Jul 31 09:11:25 EDT 2011


Dear all:

While I'm willing to do a webinar on visualization, I think we will have a
much broader audience on the topic of the Book Citation Index as this is a
new thing and very interesting to not only scientometricians, but also
librarians, policy makers, and humanities scholars. It should not be
difficult to come up with a name of someone who uses ISI products for
research and who can speak to the benefit of them (what would most of us be
doing without the Web of Science?). Some names that come to mind (people who
have talked about humanities research and who use ISI):

Howard White
Kate McCain
Bjorn Hammarfelt
Dana Hicks
Alan Porter
Loet Leydesdorff
Vincent Lariviere

The list is much longer, but this is a start. I don't think we should
abandon this topic before we've had true brainstorming on it.

Best,
Cassidy

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>wrote:

> *Dear all,*
>
> *** ***
>
> *Following on from my posting, Cassidy wrote “I think it would be nice to
> have Jonathan do a 5 minute introduction to the topic, but not represent the
> pro as he represents a commercial interest.” The topic, suggested by
> Cassidy, is not related to my research and I attended neither Jonathan
> Adams’ talk nor Eric’s response; in addition, as we should arrange speakers
> ASAP, it is not a good idea to have a topic on which we are struggling to
> find even two speakers that we consider suitable. *
>
> *** ***
>
> *Under these circumstances, I propose switching to a topic on which there
> are several suitable speakers including more than one from North America.
>  How about some aspect of visualization?  If you agree to this topic, I
> will approach potential speakers.*
>
> *** ***
>
> *Best,*
>
> *Jonathan.*
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 30/7/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
> Subject: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate: topic and speakers
>
> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
> Date: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 20:20
>
>    *Dear all,*
>
> * *
>
> *Following on from my previous email on this topic, to me the priority is
> to settle on topic and speakers.  *
>
> * *
>
> *In her useful notes, Cassidy wrote “The topic that received the most
> discussion was expanding on Eric Archambault’s criticisms of Jonathan Adam’s
> Book Citation Index presentation … We discussed approaching Eric Archambault
> to do the con, but could not think of anyone to do the pro.”  How about
> Jonathan providing the pro; after all Jonathan is the person who gave the
> Book Citation Index presentation?  Could you please give feedback soon, so
> that I can take things forward by either approach Eric and Jonathan or
> pursuing a different topic?*
>
> * *
>
> *Best,*
>
> *Jonathan.*
>
> --- On *Tue, 26/7/11, Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Jonathan Levitt <jonathan at levitt.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
> To: "SIG/MET" <sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org>
> Date: Tuesday, 26 July, 2011, 9:40
>
>    *Dear all,*
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks for your very helpful feedback.  On the basis of the feedback I
> suggest the following revised proposal:*
>
> *Time of day: 2 p.m. EST.*
>
> *Date of week: Friday.*
>
> *Month: September, but not September 24 (overlaps with Collnet).*
>
> *Speakers: Preferably one from Europe and ne from North America. *
>
> *Cost: About $15 for students, members of ASIST, members or ISSI; $49 for
> others.*
>
> *Moderator: Dietma has agreed to moderate; thanks very much.*
>
> * *
>
> *Judit asked whether the people I mentioned have agreed to participate;
> no, I have not approached anyone about the possibility of speaking so we are
> free to select speakers. *
>
> * *
>
> *Stasa asked about the format; this is still to be decided.  I would be
> pleased to build on Cassidy’s experiences with SIG/ED:  For example, what
> format was used and what changes she would recommend.  Also, it could be
> useful to know how many paid $49.*
>
> * *
>
> *Cassidy thanks for providing your notes from the ISSI meeting.  They are
> very helpful and I fully understand about the delay.  You wrote “We
> decided to wait and ask other SIG/MET officers for their opinions”; I
> welcome suggestions from the officers not only on the topic, but on other
> matters such as the format.*
>
> * *
>
> *Best,*
>
> *Jonathan.*
>
> --- On *Fri, 22/7/11, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
> To: "Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
> Cc: sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
> Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 21:17
>
>  Thanks, Cassidy. That's less than I thought it would be.
> Dietmar
>  ------------------------------
>  *From: *"Cassidy Sugimoto" <cassidysugimoto at gmail.com>
> *To: *"Dietmar Wolfram" <dwolfram at uwm.edu>
> *Cc: *"Stasa Milojevic" <smilojev at indiana.edu>,
> sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org
> *Sent: *Friday, July 22, 2011 11:08:12 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
>
> The current pricing for webinars is as follows:
>
> The initial flat price for having ASIS&T set up the webinar, put it on the
> website and run registration will be $50 (paid by the SIG, Chapter, etc.).
>
> If there is a charge associated with the webinar, ASIS&T HQ will collected
> $1.75 per person (even if one group of people is free). Any extra revenue
> will go directly to the sponsoring unit (SIG, Chapter, etc.).
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Dietmar Wolfram <dwolfram at uwm.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwolfram@uwm.edu>
> > wrote:
>
>  Dear all,
>
> I like the idea of holding the webinar on a Friday as well for the reasons
> cited. I'll be happy to serve as a moderator for the session if we find we
> need one.
>
> What is the procedure for mounting a webinar? I notice that go2meeting has
> been used for others. Is there a cost for the sponsoring SIG? As a first
> event, I think it would be great if we could offer it for free to SIG
> members and students to get more buy-in to the SIG. Of course, this would
> not be feasible if there is a usage charge for the platform used that would
> need to be recouped.
>
> Dietmar
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From: *"Stasa Milojevic" <smilojev at indiana.edu<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=smilojev@indiana.edu>
> >
> *To: *sigmet-officers at mail.asis.org<http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sigmet-officers@mail.asis.org>
> *Sent: *Friday, July 22, 2011 8:24:54 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Sigmet-officers] Webmar debate
>
>
> Dear Jonathan,
>
> Thank you for moving this forward. I have a few suggestions and questions.
>
> I think that having a webinar during a working week might bring in bigger
> audience. One possibility would be a Friday, since there are fewer classes
> on Fridays (in the US), which would mean that more faculty and students
> might be able to attend.
>
> What format do we envision? Are these two lecture-type presentations? What
> would the role of a moderator be in that case? Who is our targeted audience
> (bibliometrics community or general IS community)?
>
> Best,
> Stasa
>
>
> On 7/22/11 8:05 AM, Jonathan Levitt wrote:
>
>   **
>
> *Dear all,*
>
> * *
>
> *I am a bit hampered by not having Cassidy’s notes on the SIG/MET meeting,
> but cannot delay pressing on with SIG meters (I am going on my annual
> holiday in August).  I recall two suggestions from our discussions on the
> Webmar debate:*
>
> *(1)      The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data in the
> humanities. *
>
> *(2)      The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data. *
>
> * *
>
> *I prefer the second proposal for two reasons: (a) we were unable to find
> a person who we thought would defend using citation data in the humanities
> and (b) the second topic is more closely related to our accepted panel on
> the use of informetric information and could attract participants at our
> panel.  *
>
> * *
>
> *My suggestions are:*
>
> *Topic: The strengths and weaknesses of using citation data.*
>
> *Time of day: Afternoon (EST) so at to be a comfortable time of day for
> members from California and Europe.*
>
> *Date of week: Saturday or Sunday.*
>
> *Month: September. *
>
> *Speakers: One from Holland (Loet or Henk) and one from Belgium (Ronald or
> Wolfgang).*
>
> *Moderator: A particularly experienced SIG/MET officer (Dietmar  or
> Judit).*
>
> *Cost: $14.99 for members of ASIST or ISSI; $49.99 for other people.*
>
> * *
>
> *Could you please let me know what you think?*
>
> * *
>
> *Thanks,*
>
> *Jonathan.*
>
> **
>
>
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Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Science
Indiana University Bloomington
http://ella.slis.indiana.edu/~sugimoto
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