[Sigia-l] Calling Senior UX Consultants! - Full UCD

[Jared Spool]

Years of experience are the wrong way to look at the problem. Someone can work for 15 years and still be producing crap work. Someone can be doing brilliant work 3 years in.

You want to look at comparable work and experience. Have they done the things you need done? Does their portfolio, resume, and interview discourse demonstrate depth and understanding?

That's how you should evaluate. Of course, that's hard for a recruiter, who is really just hired to find bodies and has no trade experience, to judge.

Jared

On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:35 AM, Will Evans wrote:

> Respect Joe.
> 
> No matter how you slice it, 3-4 years is a junior ux professional level.
> This is where a person learns their craft, focusing on the core activities
> under the mentorship of more senior ux designers. 5-8 years is a mid-level
> ux professional level. As for compensation, assuming industry standards for
> education and training, the market rate for a junior (<4 years experience)
> is between $50-$70K. This isn't just NYC rates, this is nationwide average
> compensation. For a mid-level ux professional with 5-8 years experience and
> references, the compensation is between $65K-$85K. Anyone thinking that
> they can secure a senior contributor ux professional (lead, but not
> manager), for less than $85K is hitting the bong a little too hard, and
> should perhaps ease off the Phish concerts and patchouli-scented drum
> circles.
> 
> These numbers aren't just pulled out of my proverbial ass - they are backed
> up by the UPA Salary Survey and the IAI Salary Survey, the purpose of which
> is to gather and report on compensations for ux professionals by location,
> experience, title, etc.
> 
> Link: http://www.iainstitute.org/en/learn/research/salary_survey.php
> 
> The key is to properly educate clients and hiring managers/hr professionals
> so that they don't waste time attempting to source for a position, level,
> compensation that simply doesn't exist. Is it possible, perhaps, to find a
> junior to mid-level ux professional for anything less than $60K? Perhaps,
> if you expand the definition of mid-level and professional to such an
> extent that it loses all meaning. For true ux professionals with verified,
> referenced skills, it simply is not possible - you'll be getting the McRib
> of UX, and it's not our fault when your project goes south like a duck in
> winter because the client was too piss-ass cheap to pay for a real
> professional.
> 
> What's A McRib Made Of:
> http://consumerist.com/2011/11/whats-a-mcrib-made-of.html
> 
> 
> 
> ~ will
> 
> "Where you innovate, how you innovate,
> and what you innovate are design problems"
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:00 AM, Joe Sokohl <jsokohl at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> First of all, 3-4 years isn't senior.
>> Second of all, $45,000 isn't a senior consultant's salary.
>> 
>> joe
>> Joe Sokohl
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