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[Turmite]

I would tend to agree that the visual design should be part of UX. So should
the marketing function, advertising, the call center (hello, how can I help
you), the physical locations (receptionists, staff members, facilities, wall
posters...), etc.

They aren't.

Right now we have to work with the structure as it exists, and for better or
worse, the visual designers are in a seperate group. We work VERY closely,
guiding and testing their work products, but as an element within the
organizational structure we are distinct.

BTW we are both under the marketing umbrella, as are the web developers.

I think what I am struggling with is not the design connotation, rather it
is that with limited resources, we wear multiple hats within the UX domain -
performing IA, ID, and user research, yet we are still bounded by the other
groups doing things like the visual design (based on wireframes we produce).

-Haim

On 5/4/07, David Malouf <dave.ixd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ziya, I can't beleive I'm saying this, but Bravo!
>
> Form IS key to creating a strategic and holistic UX.
>
> Many orgs though do what is described initially Or worse they have
> inhouse UX teams but outsource the visual design of their products.
>
> -- dave
>
>
> On 5/4/07, Ziya Oz <listera at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Turmite:
> >
> > > the visual design group is OUTSIDE the UX domain for our organization.
> >
> > > we truly cover a pretty BROAD swath of UX.
> >
> > > BEFORE you design a new feature or website."
> >
> > > 'market' the LARGER discipline.
> >
> > The 'larger' discipline is Design. Designers have created products,
> > services, experiences for millennia in one form or another. You
> recognize
> > that there's a larger 'force' here but won't acknowledge it for fear of
> its
> > graphical-only connotations. Fair enough.
> >
> > The answer, however, is not in separating any significant aspect of
> Design
> > into disjointed organizational fiefdoms, like pretending visual design
> can
> > and should live divorced from structure, function, interaction, etc. How
> can
> > UX serve its full potential when the first plane of contact with users,
> the
> > visual interface, is intentionally outside its domain?
> >
> > ----
> > Ziya
> >
> > Design doesn't add value, it creates it.
> >
> >
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