[Sigia-l] Everything is Miscellaneous

Jon Lebkowsky jon.lebkowsky at gmail.com
Thu May 3 12:43:24 EDT 2007


I guess we're all Miscellaneists.

On 5/3/07, Timo Kouwenhoven <timo.kouwenhoven at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It certainly doesn't help to keep developments up to speed...:-(
>
> Best
>
> Timo
>
> 2007/5/3, Peter Morville <morville at semanticstudios.com>:
> > But, you've got to love the irony of IA/ID/UXD folks arguing about
> titles,
> > in light of the title and point of the book :-)
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sigia-l-bounces at asis.org [mailto:sigia-l-bounces at asis.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Brenda Janish
> > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:13 AM
> > To: sigia l
> > Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Everything is Miscellaneous
> >
> > Ugh. This Jets vs. Sharks discussion is very tiresome and unproductive.
> >
> > Why does job title matter so much?  Obviously, my opinion is that it
> doesn't
> > matter, much.  Job titles serve a practical purpose.
> > They're a scent marker for job opportunities, potential hirees'
> > skillsets, professional affiliations, and that's about it. It's not
> > something to wrap a personal identity around, it's not all-encompassing
> of a
> > person's role or skills.  I would never apply for a job based on job
> title
> > alone (which is why job descriptions exist), nor would I hire someone
> based
> > solely on a self-identifier of "Information Architect" or "Interaction
> > Designer."  I would hire them based on their unique skillset and
> experience.
> > So... why does it matter?
> >
> > There will never be a 2-word title for what we do that encompasses all
> the
> > variations of the job, which are driven by context and industry and
> company
> > culture, so why the insistence on it?  Why does it matter that everyone
> with
> > the same job title do exactly the same work? A rose by any other name...
> >
> > David, you're the most vocal on this... why does job title matter so
> much to
> > you?  I'm being sincere in that question.  Why so much angst over the
> > literal accuracy of a job title, particularly other people's job titles?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu May 03 07:22:45 PDT 2007, David Malouf <dave.ixd at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Then are you an information architect? Aren't you an interaction
> > > designer? Why hold onto the title if it really doesn't reference
> > > your
> > > actual activities of your role?
> > >
> > >
> > > -- David Malouf
> > > http://synapticburn.com/
> > > http://ixda.org/
> > > http://motorola.com/
> >
> >
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