[Sigia-l] IAs vs BAs

[Eric Reiss]

Juan wrote:
"I found that in order to get the 'buy-in' from my stakeholders, I
have to convert my IA research and documents into BA document types,
which they are familiar with."

What exactly are "BA document types"? And what are the IA documents
you must convert? Are you talking about sticking stuff in a
PowerPoint instead of Visio? Or does it go beyond this?

Best,
Eric

www.fatdux.com

---- Original Message ----
From: juan.ruiz at ceo.syd.catholic.edu.au
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] IAs vs BAs
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:02:56 +1000

>Mathew, your blog regarding IAs and BAs is good. It does clarify 
>some of
>the differences between IAs and BAs, especially when you say that BAs
>concentrate on business needs, and IAs concentrate on information 
>needs.
>
>
>The concept though, bottoms down to what the organization is 
>expecting
>from the employee (either BA or IA). An organization would like to 
>have
>a BA that can do IA. I assume they will have more preference for a BA
>role because this role has existed longer than the IAs, more
>documentation exists on their deliverables, and their business 
>knowledge
>helps them to be closer to PM methodologies. I see a lot of job 
>postings
>for WEB BAs or BAs who have experience with Wireframes and UCD. Isn't
>that what the IA should do?
>
>As Andrew said, as an IA we have to wear many hats (perform different
>duties such as IA/BA/PM/UCD...), but is there a way that I can
>differentiate my documentation from a Web BA? 
>
>I found that in order to get the 'buy-in' from my stakeholders, I 
>have
>to convert my IA research and documents into BA document types, which
>they are familiar with.
>
>Thanks for your responses, I feel like soon I should be able to 
>defend
>my case between IAs and BAs.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Boyd [mailto:facibus at gmail.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 3:44 PM
>To: Juan Ruiz
>Cc: sigia-l at asis.org
>Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] IAs vs BAs
>
>On 6/19/07, Juan Ruiz <juan.ruiz at ceo.syd.catholic.edu.au> wrote:
>> Where do we draw the line? I find that because BAs look more into 
>the
>> business side of things and their work is more aligned to Project
>> Management methodologies, their opinions weight more than from an 
>IA.
>
>Juan,
>
>the other threads on this topic (and similar) usually ended, after
>much bloodshed, with the following conclusions:
>1. It all depends - there is no one set of rules for what constitutes
>IA/BA/PM/CM/Designer/designer/UCD/UXD.
>2. The labels are arbitrary: I have myself performed what others 
>might
>term IA tasks today, as well as BA/PM/BPM/BPI/UXD/Big D Designer ones
>- happy to discuss specific instances. And it's not even 4PM here yet
>:)
>
>Cheers, Andrew
>---
>Andrew Boyd
>http://facibusreviews.com
>
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