[Sigia-l] Is email dead, too?

Eric Reiss elr at e-reiss.com
Mon Jul 23 08:46:35 EDT 2007


I was also taken aback by these stats since we're not seeing numbers
anything like this either, nor are our various clients scattered
around Europe.

Anyway, the stats seem to come from a survey conducted by XiTiMonitor
(French company) of 96,000 websites conducted between July 2-8.

Here's a link to the original article:
http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-us/browsers-barometer/ie7-and-firefox-2-
july-2007/index-1-2-3-103.html

I'm wondering which 96,000 sites they are surveying. Something really
seems skewed. Moreover, the numbers in the ArsTechnica map of Europe
do NOT coincide with the XiTiMonitor numbers, even though XiTi is the
source.

Very dubious...

Best,
Eric

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Eric Reiss
Managing Director
FatDUX Copenhagen
www.fatdux.com



---- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan.Baker-Bates at lbi.com
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Is email dead, too?
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:05:36 +0100

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sigia-l-bounces at asis.org 
>> [mailto:sigia-l-bounces at asis.org] On Behalf Of Ziya Oz
>> Sent: 20 July 2007 19:15
>> To: SIGIA-L
>> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Is email dead, too?
>> 
>> Jonathan Baker-Bates:
>> 
>> > PS: I'm afraid you're mistaken if you think FF anywhere near 30% 
>in 
>> > Europe (at least on any major sites). More like 5-12% for 
>non-geek 
>> > sites, with other Gecko agents totalling perhaps 3% on top of 
>that.
>> 
>> "Firefox is most popular in central and eastern Europe, with 
>> 47.9 percent of Slovenian surfers using Firefox during the 
>> first week in July. Finland is in second place with 45.4 
>> percent while Slovakia rounds out the 40 percent club with 
>> 40.4 percent of its residents using Firefox. Firefox has 
>> passed the 30 percent barrier in 11 other countries, 
>> including Poland with 39.6 percent, Germany with 38.0 
>> percent, and Austria with 30.7 percent."
>> 
>> <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070717-europeans-embra
>ce-firefox-in-
>> record-numbers.html>
>
>I don't know how XiTiMonitor derive their stats, but here at the 
>largest
>digital services agency in Europe, we have access to real (not 
>derived)
>stats for a great deal of large, and in some cases very large, 
>consumer
>brand sites over a wide sector spread. Admittedly, few of those are 
>for
>Eastern Europe, mainly because those markets are very small right 
>now.
>
>The highest FF usage we're seeing is Germany with about 11-12%. The 
>UK
>and Italy are around 5-8%. 
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>PS: I would think that it would be a function of Windows's installed
>base that no more than about 25% of users in *any* country would have
>the knowledge, or indeed the interest right now to install and use FF
>over IE. That would provide a clue that the XiTiMonitor stats are at
>least somewhat inflated. 
>
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