[Sigia-l] Subdomain usability

Kenneth Bryson kbryson at toronto.ca
Tue Jun 6 11:48:06 EDT 2006


How many people (beyond IAs) really consider independant applications as
something other than an "understood part of a greater whole"? None, I
would say.

If it's part of yahoo, then it's part of yahoo and either
yahoo.com/maps or maps.yahoo.com should go to the same place regardless
of which server it's on.  Power users may prefer the maps.yahoo.com, but
designing for power users isn't likely a winning strategy.

-kb

>>> "David (Heller) Malouf" <dave.ixd at gmail.com> 6/6/2006 11:19 AM >>>
I'm not sure I follow the below.
Where is "home" when you do yahoo.com/maps? Is it the yahoo portal
page? that doesn't make sense to me. Maps is an independent yet
connected application, so shouldn't it have some sense of primacy of
its own? I don't understand the search engine stuff very much. I
usually just go by titles.

Now that being said, I type maps.yahoo.com, but I wouldn't type
outlook.microsoft.com (unless i wanted to use otulook to get microsoft
mail). Instead I would type microsoft.com/outlook as I don't see
"outlook" in this case as a "home", but rather as an understood part
of a greater whole.

-- dave

On 6/6/06, Eric Reiss <elr at e-reiss.com> wrote:
> I'd have to respectfully disagree with Dave on this one.
>
> Yes, the typing is easier, but most ordinary users - if they
> understand URLs at all - will assume that it indicates a path.
Hence,
> I prefer www.yahoo.com/maps, which suggests a path or hierarchy.
>
> The boring, old-fashioned form also makes it easier to spot the
> source when skimming URLs in search results. And it makes it a LOT
> easier to butcher a URL when the site has magically transported you
> someplace you don't want to be on another server.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
> e-reiss & associates
> copenhagen, denmark
> www.e-reiss.com 
> www.fatdux.com 
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: dave.ixd at gmail.com 
> To: sigia-l at asis.org 
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Subdomain usability
> Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:33:35 -0400
>
> >I love subdomains and usually "assume" they exist and love when
they
> >do.
> >yahoo uses them very well, and I think they are great.
> >why? b/c typing www.yahoo.com/maps is longer than typing
> >maps.yahoo.com
> >
> >but also, it makes a clearer association that the functionality is
> >somehow independent, that it has a "root" of its own. i don't mean
> >that in the technical sense, but in the this is a "home page"
landing
> >page sense.
> >
> >-- dave
> >
> >
> >On 6/6/06, Skot Nelson <skot at penguinstorm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jun-5-2006, at 12:11 PM, Kenneth Bryson wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ultimately, they need to make sense and can be used in the same
> >> > fashion
> >> > as redirects.
> >>
> >> They need to be integrated into a clear, consistent
communications
> >> strategy as well. It must be *obvious* what content would, for
> >> example, be on the investor.bank.com zone versus the www.bank.com

> >zone.
> >>
> >> Why would I bookmark one and not the other?
> >> --
> >> Scott Nelson
> >> skot (at) penguinstorm (dot) com
> >> http://www.penguinstorm.com/ 
> >>
> >> skype. skot.nelson
> >>
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David (Heller) Malouf
dave.ixd at gmail.com 
http://synapticburn.com/ 
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