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ALBERT LUKBAN
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2. RE: Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
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3. Re: Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?' (Listera)
4. The Thesaurus (Peter Morville)
5. Re: Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
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6. Job Posting: Manager - Information Mgmt Group - GAO (Susan Doran)
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From: "Boniface Lau" <boniface_lau at compuserve.com>
Subject: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
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Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/12/microsofts_google_killer_arrives
/print.html
MSGK> If the cult of "information" is as important as technophiliacs
MSGK> tell us it is, we need to develop social mechanisms, not fancier
MSGK> search engines, to get us to the Holy Land. Don't look to the
MSGK> privatized information scavengers of the web for answers.
MSGK>
MSGK> So all the while we were consumed with the "search engine wars",
MSGK> what we were really looking at was the "library wars". And
MSGK> whoever has the best library wins, in this case.
Boniface
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:22:25 +0000
From: "Stewart Dean" <stew8dean at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a
'whuh?'
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Been thinking about this.
Google is a great case for good user experience. It is mostly down to the
library but the skill of knowing what kind of results people want is, I
believe, both an art and a science.
There was a great interview with Greig Silverstein from google in Slashdot
where he was asked what drives innovation - is it the hardware of the
software team. The answer started..
"Actually, the innovation is driven neither by hardware or software, but by
products. We look around and say, "What would be the next great product to
have?""
Microsoft have a philosophical problem in that they think like engineers,
not architects. They have built a fast search engine, with lots of clever
features but if the results arnt so good the user experience will not be as
good. Also the interface - google is simple and quirky. Also I've used it a
few times and can't remember what the url is - it's something like MSN
search. I use hotmail but I don't want, need, or have any respect for MSN
even though it's up there in the tool bar. In brand terms it's the pushy
friend of a the girl you really like that you put up with.
Now that push friend wants a date in terms of a search engine. I'm not that
keen to be honest.
Whilst I'm mid flow - why did the break the usability of hotmail recently by
moving the action buttons for attachements to ABOVE the information you are
entering.
Sorry got side tracked.
http://beta.search.msn.com
Looks kinda ugly as well. Just noticed - when get a blank search it has two
search boxes? Huh?
Bad user experience, bad.
Stew Dean
>From: "Boniface Lau" <boniface_lau at compuserve.com>
>To: "'sigia l'" <sigia-l at asis.org>
>Subject: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:18:39 -0500
>
>
>Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a 'whuh?'
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/12/microsofts_google_killer_arrives
>/print.html
>
>MSGK> If the cult of "information" is as important as technophiliacs
>MSGK> tell us it is, we need to develop social mechanisms, not fancier
>MSGK> search engines, to get us to the Holy Land. Don't look to the
>MSGK> privatized information scavengers of the web for answers.
>MSGK>
>MSGK> So all the while we were consumed with the "search engine wars",
>MSGK> what we were really looking at was the "library wars". And
>MSGK> whoever has the best library wins, in this case.
>
>
>Boniface
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:19:17 -0500
From: Listera <listera at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a
'whuh?'
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Stewart Dean:
> In brand terms it's the pushy friend of a the girl you really like that you
> put up with.
Banana peel, elevator shaft, arsenic. Why do you put up with her?
Ziya
Nullius in Verba
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:40:04 -0500
From: "Peter Morville" <morville at semanticstudios.com>
Subject: [Sigia-l] The Thesaurus
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For those bottom-up information architects out there (or dare I say "little
IAs" :-) there's a new book called:
The Thesaurus: Review, Renaissance, and Revision
by Sandra K. Roe and Alan R. Thomas
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0789019795/
Could make for some great Thanksgiving reading!
Peter Morville
President, Semantic Studios
www.semanticstudios.com
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 07:50:56 +1100
From: Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a
'whuh?'
To: SIGIA-L <sigia-l at asis.org>
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Ziya wrote:
> Banana peel, elevator shaft, arsenic. Why do you put up with her?
Agreed; I can't for the life of me remember what I did before Google.
Did I find anything? Could I read mail properly? Who knows? :)
Alex
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:45:37 -0500
From: "Susan Doran" <DoranS at gao.gov>
Subject: [Sigia-l] Job Posting: Manager - Information Mgmt Group - GAO
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Hello!
Starting 12/1/04, I will be rededicating my time to my little company, Knowledge Management Consulting (started in 1998), and "retiring" from my position at GAO (as a Lockheed Martin contractor).
As a result, a great new opportunity is opening up for a highly motivated, experienced, energetic, creative, results-oriented, multifaceted knowledge management professional and people manager.
See below for position description. Also attached as a prettier Word document.
For more information, or to apply, contact my boss, who runs the Lockheed contract at GAO:
Peter McGarry, Program Manager
Lockheed Martin Information Technology
Government Accountability Office
441 G Street NW
Washington DC 20548
pmcgarry at gao.gov
__________________________________________
MANAGER, INFORMATION MANAGEMENT GROUP
GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE (GAO)
WASHINGTON, DC
POSITION DESCRIPTION:
Lockheed Martin Information Technology Services Group is seeking a skilled manager, thought leader, and change innovator to lead a dynamic, multifaceted Information Management department within the Government Accountability Office (GAO) in downtown Washington, DC.
Work with a range of technical and non-technical GAO customers (Knowledge Services, Library, Systems Analysts, Web Operations, Information Systems) at various professional and technical levels.
Oversee 10 employees at varying levels, working in a matrixed team environment, focusing on the following areas:
· Metadata Capture, Indexing, and Abstracting (for database of 60,000 GAO document records)
· Database Administration/Maintenance (extensive federal government contact databases)
· Taxonomy Development (update of GAO's enterprise taxonomy; creation of team-based taxonomies)
· Research (respond to requests for GAO documents from GAO staff and external constituents)
· Accessibility (ensure compliance with Section 508 of Americans with Disabilities Act of GAO documents)
· Process Improvement and Documentation (of all Information Management Group functions)
· Information Architecture/Mapping (provide support to Knowledge Services on GAO internal web pages)
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Interface with GAO management and functional personnel. Ensure all GAO customer requirements are fulfilled innovatively, cost-effectively, and with excellence.
Serve as liaison to and technical expert in all tasks, responsibilities, projects, systems, and processes relevant to the Information Management Group.
Provide clear written and oral reports to Lockheed contract manager and GAO customers.
Work toward continuous improvement of existing departmental processes.
Ensure that data integrity and other issues are identified and proactively addressed.
Shore up group infrastructure by defining policies, procedures, and systems documentation.
Work with program manager to find new opportunities to serve customers proactively.
REQUIREMENTS:
· Masters degree in Library Science, Information Systems, Computer Science, Communications, Management, or related field + 7 years of progressive experience directly related to position requirements, including 3 years of experience managing large-scale IT-focused projects.
OR
· Bachelor's degree in Library Science, Information Systems, Computer Science, Communications, Management, or related field + 10 years of progressive experience directly related to position requirements, including 7 years of experience managing large-scale IT-focused projects
· Experience working within a government agency (experience as contractor or consultant preferred)
· Experience defining requirements for and/or implementing knowledge management (KM) services, systems, tools, and processes
· Demonstrated competency in project development, management, and evaluation
· Ability to focus on and juggle multiple projects and priorities
· Proven team-building, supervision, and leadership skills
· Familiarity with application of Sigma 6 or other business process improvement techniques
· Hands-on skills in all of the following areas: indexing, meta-data capture, and taxonomy-building
· Exceptional customer service orientation: demonstrated ability to help define and respond to customer requests--given very tight deadlines--and deliver substantive, action-oriented support
·Excellent written and verbal communications skills
TECHNOLOGY SKILLS:
Experience with the following preferred: Excel, Access Innovations MAI (machine-aided taxonomy management, and indexing tool), Data Harmony Taxonomy Builder, Document/Content Management Systems; Web and/or Intranet information architecture development; SQL programming, Microsoft Project.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Susan Doran, Manager
GAO Information Management Group
c/o Lockheed Martin Technology Services
441 G Street NW - Room 1529
202-512-4367
susandoran at gao.gov
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:14:30 +1100
From: Andrew Boyd <andrew_db at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a
'whuh?'
To: Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen at gmail.com>
Cc: SIGIA-L <sigia-l at asis.org>
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Hi Alex,
for all the stuff I dump on Google, I still use it myself. Life before
Google for me was a lot slower - going to Altavista or Yahoo and hoping
for the best. I can't imagine going back to their awkwardness. One-way
hierarchical categorisation schemes? Bleauh! :)
CC list and thence Ziya: What is your alternative? Will there be Life
After Microsoft for the rest of us? :)
Cheers, Andrew
Alexander Johannesen wrote:
>Ziya wrote:
>
>
>>Banana peel, elevator shaft, arsenic. Why do you put up with her?
>>
>>
>
>Agreed; I can't for the life of me remember what I did before Google.
>Did I find anything? Could I read mail properly? Who knows? :)
>
>
>Alex
>
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:29:05 +1100
From: Alexander Johannesen <alexander.johannesen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a
'whuh?'
To: Andrew Boyd <andrew_db at bigpond.com>
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Hi,
> for all the stuff I dump on Google, I still use it myself. Life before
> Google for me was a lot slower - going to Altavista or Yahoo and hoping
> for the best. I can't imagine going back to their awkwardness. One-way
> hierarchical categorisation schemes? Bleauh! :)
Well, as a primordeal soup I guess it worked out alright ... but the
trouble is that we're still very much in it; we haven't been able to
properly climb out of our little pond, even if we've got the knowledge
and have a red line thrown at us to help us climb out. It's like our
arms are ... uh, not there.
I keep thinking that the stuff I found in the old days were good, but
perhaps reality is that now I find better stuff but at the same time
tons more of the bad stuff. Hmm.
> What is your alternative? Will there be Life
> After Microsoft for the rest of us? :)
Well, Microsoft may want to (and may end up doing it) swallow Googles
juice. Hopefully Google is one step ahead with ... something. I work
with all sorts of Topic Maps and semWeb related stuff myself which is
marginally "better", but perhaps for different reasons. Some search
engines do a bit of both Google and SemWeb stuff. And yet again ...
it's all pretty nasty and crude attempts at getting good results.
Alternative? Change the underlying understanding of epistomology.
Well, I should really say "update people to modern epistomology".
Crikey, Lakoffs "Women, fire and dangerous things" was written back in
1991, and we're still fiddling around with our class hierchial stuff.
The SemWeb is even based on it. *grumble*
Anyways, alternatives to what we're doing is of course to look into
prototypical properties of words, phrases and resources, work out the
context, and deliver search results based on that. We're getting
there, ever so slowly. Google got the context thing going, which
really was at the core of their success. There will be more such
little breakthroughs in knowledge representation, albeit Microsoft
hasn't introduced any such thing. Yet.
I'm not worried, though; this is a multi-billion industry. I'm sure
someone far smarter than me is working on it.
Alexander
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:35:56 -0500
From: Listera <listera at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Microsoft's Google-killer arrives with a
'whuh?'
To: SIGIA-L <sigia-l at asis.org>
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Andrew Boyd:
> What is your alternative?
To what?
MSN Search? Google.
Windows? Mac OS X.
> Will there be Life After Microsoft for the rest of us?
After is today. :-) Microsoft is not going away, in the sense that
McDonald's will be here a long time, so will an awful lot of poorly designed
stuff. If you have choice, ignore them. If you don't, try to get choice.
Ziya
Nullius in Verba
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:14:58 -0500
From: Anders Ramsay <andersr at gmail.com>
Subject: [Sigia-l] NYC IA Cocktail Hour
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Just a reminder that that NYC IA Meetup's monthly cocktail hour is
tomorrow (Wed. 11/17), starting at 7pm. This month, we're meeting at
The Vig Bar, which is on the SE corner of Spring and Elizabeth in
SoHo. More info at http://ia.meetup.com/14/
- Anders
Organizer, NYC IA Meetup
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