[Sigia-l] The A>B, B>A problem

[Stewart Dean]

Peter

It's different 'facets' of the same information.

A hiracy is one description of a set of data. In theory both solutions are 
right.

In France there may be Red, White, Rose, Sparkling etc wine.

Wine may come from many different countries.

So it's a case of picking which is best for your particular solution - as 
it's been said many times - it depends.

>From my perspective it is the user needs and tasks that should drive the 
hirarcy of information. As we are not working with a physical library 
something does not need to exist in one box and one box only or have one 
catagorisation system.  Too many views can be confusing, too few means items 
become hard to find unless you know exactly what you're looking for.

Your example is a good example of the chance to present multiple views based 
on different facets to the user.

Stewart Dean
IA Consultant / Whale Tamer.



>From: anne at mindstorm.com
>To: "Sigia-L" <sigia-l at asis.org>
>Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] The A>B, B>A problem
>Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:43:17 -0500 (EST)
>
>Seems like in this case it would always be Red Wine > France, since red
>wine is not found only in France.
>
>-Anne
>
> > Isn't the point of a taxonomy is to go from global to local?
> >
> > that is to say, you put the item that contains the most at the top.
> > In this case you have a country and you have a category of wine
> > Depending on the rest of your taxonomy would depend on which direction
> > you would go.
> > If it is a wine site you would go in one direction, if it is a site
> > about cuisine it might go in another. As to what to call it ... good
> > luck! .. ;) If you are contending that they are equal in your problem,
> > you may need to deconstruct your problem then.
> >
> > Whenever I think about taxonomies, I always go back to the first one -
> > life. Seems to help me focus. Laneus is the dude, eh?
> >
> > -- dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:57:54 -0200, Marcos Rogério
> > <marcos.rogerio at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I think Theodor Nelson in his "Literary Machines" (there's an updated
> >> version, but I can't remember the name now... but you may find a
> >> chapter in "Multimedia. From Wagner to Virtual Reality") says
> >> something about it. But he gave no names to this problem. Just said,
> >> as you did, there's no solution. All taxonomies are by definition
> >> arbitrary.
> >>
> >> Hope it helps...
> >> Marcos
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Is there a name for the problem when, if you are stuck with designing
> >> a
> >> > simple hierarchy for the web, you have to choose between "Wine >
> >> France
> >> > > ..." or "France > Wine > ..." and there is no best choice because
> >> > users have differing needs? I know this problem has come back in
> >> almost
> >> > every taxonomy (that is a simple hierarchy) that I have ever done. So
> >> I
> >> > was wondering if there exists a name for it? Library scientists?
> >> >
> >> > If not, we should probably coin one...
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Peter
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