[Sigia-l] Don't submit websites to search engines?
Christina Wodtke
cwodtke at eleganthack.com
Mon May 17 14:31:53 EDT 2004
Don't sweat it: article like this show why it's really hard to keep track
http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3354071
----- Original Message -----
From: "BJ Cook" <bcook at gate1travel.com>
To: "Christina Wodtke" <cwodtke at eleganthack.com>; "SIGIA-L"
<sigia-l at asis.org>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Don't submit websites to search engines?
> I apologize for being semantically off.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christina Wodtke
> To: SIGIA-L
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Don't submit websites to search engines?
>
>
> Yahoo is a portal, along with MSN, AOL, and shortly Google (IMO).
>
> Yahoo has a large number of services, both free (supported by advertising)
> and paid.
> These include mail, a proper search engine (actually three), a directory,
an
> auto listing, a shopping aggregator, a mapping tool, has music (Launch),
> jobs (hotJobs) finance, news, movie listings, tv listings, a calendar,
photo
> storage and management, personals and a hell of a lot more.
>
> To say Yahoo! is a directory is to say Yahoo is mail-- you are a blind
many
> describing an elephant as a snake.
>
> BTW, with the addition of groups, mail and soon IM, I think we will see
> Google as not a search engine.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "BJ Cook" <bcook at gate1travel.com>
> To: "Christina Wodtke" <cwodtke at eleganthack.com>; "SIGIA-L"
> <sigia-l at asis.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Don't submit websites to search engines?
>
>
> > Another interesting point is to note that Yahoo is a directory, not a
> search
> > engine.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Christina Wodtke
> > To: SIGIA-L
> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 11:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Don't submit websites to search engines?
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure how seriously I'd take this: the author doesn't seem to
know
> > yahoo, inktomi, altavista and fast are all just yahoo now.
> > Also, he mentions forums as a good place to list your URL (great, he
> doesn't
> > mention the important of relevant text around a link, so now forums are
> > probably going to get linkspammed), but most forums are currently
> > uncrawlable. However, he's dead on regarding directories, and that
> actually
> > affects placement as well as getting crawled.
> >
> > Were it me, I'd not pay for search placement, but would pay for
directory
> > listing.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Listera" <listera at rcn.com>
> > To: "SIGIA-L" <sigia-l at asis.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:43 PM
> > Subject: [Sigia-l] Don't submit websites to search engines?
> >
> >
> > > Forget paying Yahoo to get included, here's an argument for not
> bothering
> > > with SE submissions at all:
> > >
> > > <http://evolt.org/article/rdf/20/60314/index.html>
> > >
> > > Too simplistic?
> > >
> > > Ziya
> > > Nullius in Verba
> > >
> > >
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