[Sigia-l] IA Java alternatives

Dave dheller at gmail.com
Wed Apr 21 11:41:02 EDT 2004


On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:18:41 -0400, Dave Collins
<dcollins at phoenix-interactive.com> wrote:
> I did not find any flyout menus at the link you listed. Can you clarify?

the flyouts are on the flowchart. the blue objects have links. Click
on it and there is a menu associated with it.

re: JavaScript vs. Java: Karl is right. This distinction is like night
and day and is not just semantic (where is Eric?) ...

re: Accessibility: there are ways of using DHTML that is accessible.
Not all projbects need to be accessible.

re: alternatives. In the example you gave, I would go w/ Flash. It is
now accessible (v. 7; MX 2004) and you can make this much richer and
honestly more readable using Flas than in the graphic model you have
now.

re: flyouts = bad ... hmm? Flyouts is a convention that has been
learned by millions of people. Saying it is bad to me seems to dismiss
that many many people have learned and accepted this convention in
almost all the applications on their desktop. It is the a solid
foundation of what came out of XeroxPARC (that's X11, MacOS, &
Windows). Seems harsh to just dismiss this out of hand. Menus are a
great way of hiding complexity till it is requested. Yes, hiding is
weird that's for sure, and this design is awkward b/c you can't tell
where the menus actually are, but these are in my mind implementation
issues and not convention value issues.

-- dave



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