[Sigia-l] Does this mean what I think it means?

[Leslie Johnston]

If you go even further and into the actual patent document, what this 
really seems to be patenting is the client-server process for their 
one-click ordering system.  At least that's what appears in the diagram 
portion.

At 07:52 PM 9/3/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>"Lyle_Kantrovich at cargill.com" wrote:
>
> > I think you could still do expanding/collapsing forms and not violate the
> > exact conditions of the patent.
>
>Well, leaving aside Java, Active X, Flash, etc., in xHTML we have iFrames,
>frames and DHTML/CSS/DOM tree manipulation of selective
>writing/deleting/hiding of nodes/elements, etc. My assumption is that these
>are public and Amazon is not claiming to have invented them. Whether these
>methods are used in a form or not is/should not be the determining factor.
>Forms are important here because they are the principal (but not necessarily
>the only) means of communicating with the server. Indeed, when I do quick
>prototypes, I download all the data I need in a page in one swoop, then
>hide/show/edit portions of the page to simulate the request/response loop
>and server interactions, without going back to a (non-existing) server.
>WebObjects, for example, has a framework precisely for hiding/disclosing
>such dynamic data on HTML pages with the clicking of the familiar Apple
>disclosure triangle thingy.
>
>I'm too hungry at the moment to write more about this, but I read the whole
>patent page and saw nothing there that was novel enough to merit a patent,
>to say the least.
>
>Ziya
>Nullius in Verba
>
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