[Sigia-l] GoogleNews

[Challis Hodge]

> That's not to say GoogleNews won't make waves...but I agree with Victor
> that this represents more of an opportunity than a threat to information
> architects.

I too agree. IA has arrived to take the Web to its next level of maturity. I
think we're just entering that phase now. The need exists for strategic IA
including the creation of algorithms, etc. as well as the tedious task of
tagging, labeling and organizing the huge amounts of information into
something usable. This is a huge endeavor and huge opportunity for IA.

It's only after this has been completed that we may begin to think about the
dreams of folks like Ray Kurzweil in their pursuit of true artificial
intelligence and machines working as fast as the human brain. It's
interesting to note the need for IA to achieve true AI.

-challis

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From: sigia-l-admin at asis.org [mailto:sigia-l-admin at asis.org]On Behalf Of
Peter Morville
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:13 PM
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A couple of things to keep in mind in this discussion:

* News articles are highly structured to begin with (headline, date,
etc).

* GoogleNews is built on top of 4,000 existing news sources that involve
lots of work by humans (e.g., reporters, writers, editors).




Peter Morville
President, Semantic Studios
www.semanticstudios.com



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"ryankowalczyk at mchsi.com" wrote:

> Instead, IAs play a role in the design of the template
> itself by helping to decide things like, in this case:

I don't know if humans did or did not have anything to do with the
structural decisions you cited, specifically in the GoogleNews case. But
it's not impossible for me to fathom that such structural decisions can
and will be made in the future entirely by computers as well. Genetic
algorithms are one such method to "organically" generate structure after
a very large set of random iterations, feedback loops and mutations, the
domain of Google. So, I think, rather than being a non-starter, this
might indeed be the first tiny but highly-visible step in that
direction.

Victor Lombardi" wrote:

> I think IAs will increasing need to create algorithms, i.e. we'll
> design systems rather than design instances. We'll need to think about

> the reasons why we made a design decision and put that reasoning into
> algorithmic format for the computers to replicate.

What's exciting or scary (depending on your POV) about this is that
computers can and will generate the algorithms that generate the
instances. That is, computers will decide to create a new news section,
when they detect a "need" for it. They will place it in an "appropriate"
spot in the page geometry. They will decide to drop sections that are
not popular with readers. They will introduce sections for serendipity
purposes. They will monitor the popularity of various sections and
rearrange the template in small iterations or in one big swoop. They
will highlight certain sections by the use of color, type, placements,
etc. We're not too far from all this. (I haven't said anything about
whether this is all "good" or not . :-)

Best,

Ziya

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