[Sigia-l] Re: Sigia-l digest, Vol 1 #213 - 13 msgs (Out of Office)

Thu Aug 29 11:58:41 EDT 2002

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   2. Navigation book recommendations (request) (John Fullerton)
   3. Re: Navigation book recommendations (request) (::kevination::)
   4. Re: Navigation book recommendations (request)
(=?iso-8859-1?q?Margaret=20Hanley?=)
   5. Any one ever hear of this organization??  New Study Optimistic
       for the Future of Web Professionals (H. Jay Melnick)
   6. Re: psst / Polar book (Luz M Quiroga)
   7. RE: Any one ever hear of this organization??  New Study Optimistic
for the Future of Web Professionals (Sean Lawrence)
   8. Re: Navigation book recommendations (request) (Louis Rosenfeld)
   9. IA Summit 2003 Call for Participation (Richard Hill)
  10. Re: psst / Polar book (Richard Wiggins)
  11. Re: psst / Polar book (Richard Wiggins)
  12. RFP: OneNASA Portal (Mike Meshek)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:58:08 -0700
From: "Traci Timmons" <TraciT at mossadams.com>
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To: <sigia-l at asis.org>
Subject: [Sigia-l] Re: Sigia-l digest, Vol 1 #212 - 5 msgs (Out of the
Office)

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:11:20 -0500
From: "John Fullerton" <JFULLERT at lib-gw.tamu.edu>
To: <sigia-l at asis.org>
Subject: [Sigia-l] Navigation book recommendations (request)

I've seen recommendations for Jennifer Fleming's book Web Navigation.

Does anyone have other recommendations?

Have a nice day
John Paul Fullerton
j-fullerton at tamu.edu 

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 13:32:09 -0600
From: "::kevination::" <simplecypher at bitshift.ws>
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Navigation book recommendations (request)

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John Fullerton wrote:
> I've seen recommendations for Jennifer Fleming's book Web Navigation.
> 
> Does anyone have other recommendations?
> 

I've found Erik Jonsson's "Inner Navigation" to be of value. The book is

not about Web site navigation but physical navigation. The insight into 
how we make sense of location and direction in the physical world helped

me to understand and articulate the differences in the virtual world.

http://tinyurl.com/17b2 (link to Amazon.com page)

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 21:02:04 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Margaret=20Hanley?= <mairead at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Navigation book recommendations (request)
To: SIG IA <sigia-l at asis.org>

I like Marcia Bates article

THE DESIGN OF BROWSING AND BERRYPICKING TECHNIQUES FOR THE
ONLINE SEARCH INTERFACE

http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/berrypicking.html

It talks about "navigating" through an information space,
how people move through traditional online articles. Some
of the recommendations are a bit dated like the library
interface, but the principle of berrypicking is a one we
can apply to navigating the web space.

Mags

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:48:37 -0600
To: sigia-l at asis.org
From: "H. Jay Melnick" <jmelnick at coloradio.com>
Subject: [Sigia-l] Any one ever hear of this organization??  New Study
Optimistic
 for the Future of Web Professionals

All:

Got this today...but I've never heard of these people before...Has any
body 
else????

            Cheers...........Jay

>To: editor at coloradio.com
>From: robert at joinwow.org
>X-Info1: woweb is a customer of interestalert.com
>X-Info2: Address any spam problems to support at interestalert.com
>Subject: New Study Optimistic for the Future of Web Professionals
>X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=14.8 
>tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUPERLONG_LINE version=2.20
>X-Spam-Level:
>
>Dear H JAY,
>
>My name is Bill Cullifer and I am the Executive Director for the non 
>profit professional association World Organization of Webmasters (WOW).
I 
>am writing to you today with a personal request to consider the
following 
>piece as something positive to write about. In short, the Internet is
not 
>dead. Far from it!
>
>Thanks in adavnce for your time.
>
>
>Folsom CA, August 21, 2002- The non profit professional association,
World 
>Organization of Webmasters (WOW) is pleased to announce that a recent 
>survey conducted by the Information Technology Association (ITAA)
reports 
>that despite a significant downturn in the economy and the demise of
many 
>dot coms, the demand for Web professionals remains strong.
>
>The report entitled "Bouncing Back": Jobs, Skills and the Continuing 
>Demand for IT workers attributes the growing demand for Web
professionals 
>to the global spending of $633 billion dollars on Electronic Commerce
in 
>2001 According to the survey "Behind each sale, catalog website, 
>electronic procurement or e-commerce portal is a Web developer or a
team 
>of developers and administrators". "This is good news for those
currently 
>working in the field or for those that are considering starting a Web 
>professional career." said Bill Cullifer, Executive Director for WOW.
>
>The recent ITAA report is consistent with WOW's own research and
efforts 
>over the last five years working with industry and education to develop

>the standard for quality education, training and certification for Web 
>professionals everywhere. "By publishing the skills required by
business 
>and industry, certification standards will save aspiring and practicing

>Web professionals and the educators that teach them valuable time and 
>money by outlining a detailed pathway to the skills employers require
the 
>most. Web professionals with technical, business, design, and project 
>management skills are, and will continue to be, the most in demand and 
>will receive the highest compensation", said Cullifer.
>
>In addition to supporting self study by participating in the publishing
of 
>books, cd-rom's and online resources, WOW also provides colleges, 
>universities, training companies and high schools with the availability
of 
>a "turn-key" curriculum. This curriculum was developed in partnership, 
>with the University of Washington, Public Broadcasting Service (PBS),
Web, 
>Pearson/Prentice Hall and the U.S. Department of Education's (thanks in

>part to a generous $1.4 million LAPP grant).
>
>Other initiatives include collaboration with industry giants like the 
>Adobe Corporation and Cisco Systems offering Web Designer curriculum
based 
>on WOW certification standards. Apple Computer in collaboration with 
>ID4theWeb and Macromedia have developed a quality curriculum program 
>available at Apple centers nationwide, mapping to WOW'S certification
programs.
>
>Other statistics of the ITAA survey include:
>
>Companies surveyed are optimistic about future hiring over the next 12
months
>
>Largest demand for Web professionals seen in larger non-IT companies
>
>80% of all IT workers are employed by small companies
>
>92% of IT workers are employed by non-IT companies
>
>Outsourcing continues to grow in popularity among non-IT companies
>
>Most desirable specific Technical Skills for Web Professionals include:
C 
>++, SQL, Java XML, Perl, HTML and SQL Server, TCP/IP and Visual Basic
>
>Overall, certification has grown in significance for each job category
>
>Money remains the primary retention tool according to hiring managers
>
>Applicants with mid level skills sets are most desired (more pronounced

>among IT companies than non IT)
>
>Large shortage expected of qualified candidates (600,000) for 2002
>
>Management and employability or "soft" (not just technical) skills play
an 
>important role
>
>About WOW
>WOW, a non-profit, membership supported organization for web
professionals 
>provides education, support and guidance to the growing and diverse 
>population of Web professionals around the world. WOW certifications, 
>including the premier Certified Professional Webmaster (CPW), are
premised 
>on standards of competency derived by industry experts for Internet 
>design, programming and administration.
>
>For more information contact: Bill Cullifer at 916 608-1597 or 
>bill at joinwow.org
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:16:16 -1000 (HST)
From: Luz M Quiroga <lquiroga at hawaii.edu>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] psst / Polar book
To: Louis Rosenfeld <lou at louisrosenfeld.com>
Cc: SIGIA-L <sigia-l at asis.org>

I just got the book, from O'Reilly, here in hawaii. Must be already in
mainland bookstores

Luz

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On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Louis Rosenfeld wrote:

> On 8/28/02 11:41 AM, "Mike.Steckel at SEMATECH.Org"
<Mike.Steckel at SEMATECH.Org>
> wrote:
>
> > Both articles are terrific. Read them today. But, this does raise a
question
> > for
> > me: Where is the book?
>
>
> Printing is now complete (I have an advance copy of the little bearish
> bastard sitting right here on my desk).  But it typically takes a week
or
> three to move from the printer to the publisher to the warehouses to
the
> bookstores.  Another argument for e-books.
>
> cheers
>
>
> Louis Rosenfeld
> www.louisrosenfeld.com
> information architecture consulting
>
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Message: 7
Reply-To: <slawrence at lucidvagary.com>
From: "Sean Lawrence" <slawrence at lucidvagary.com>
To: "'H. Jay Melnick'" <jmelnick at coloradio.com>, <sigia-l at asis.org>
Subject: RE: [Sigia-l] Any one ever hear of this organization??  New
Study Optimistic for the Future of Web Professionals
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:30:29 -0500

Don't you believe it!

I can't even get an INTERVIEW for a help desk job let alone anything
else.

-----Original Message-----
From: sigia-l-admin at asis.org [mailto:sigia-l-admin at asis.org]On Behalf Of
H. Jay Melnick
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:49 PM
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: [Sigia-l] Any one ever hear of this organization?? New Study
Optimistic for the Future of Web Professionals

All:

Got this today...but I've never heard of these people before...Has any
body
else????

            Cheers...........Jay

>To: editor at coloradio.com
>From: robert at joinwow.org
>X-Info1: woweb is a customer of interestalert.com
>X-Info2: Address any spam problems to support at interestalert.com
>Subject: New Study Optimistic for the Future of Web Professionals
>X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=14.8
>tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUPERLONG_LINE version=2.20
>X-Spam-Level:
>
>Dear H JAY,
>
>My name is Bill Cullifer and I am the Executive Director for the non
>profit professional association World Organization of Webmasters (WOW).
I
>am writing to you today with a personal request to consider the
following
>piece as something positive to write about. In short, the Internet is
not
>dead. Far from it!
>
>Thanks in adavnce for your time.
>
>
>Folsom CA, August 21, 2002- The non profit professional association,
World
>Organization of Webmasters (WOW) is pleased to announce that a recent
>survey conducted by the Information Technology Association (ITAA)
reports
>that despite a significant downturn in the economy and the demise of
many
>dot coms, the demand for Web professionals remains strong.
>
>The report entitled "Bouncing Back": Jobs, Skills and the Continuing
>Demand for IT workers attributes the growing demand for Web
professionals
>to the global spending of $633 billion dollars on Electronic Commerce
in
>2001 According to the survey "Behind each sale, catalog website,
>electronic procurement or e-commerce portal is a Web developer or a
team
>of developers and administrators". "This is good news for those
currently
>working in the field or for those that are considering starting a Web
>professional career." said Bill Cullifer, Executive Director for WOW.
>
>The recent ITAA report is consistent with WOW's own research and
efforts
>over the last five years working with industry and education to develop
>the standard for quality education, training and certification for Web
>professionals everywhere. "By publishing the skills required by
business
>and industry, certification standards will save aspiring and practicing
>Web professionals and the educators that teach them valuable time and
>money by outlining a detailed pathway to the skills employers require
the
>most. Web professionals with technical, business, design, and project
>management skills are, and will continue to be, the most in demand and
>will receive the highest compensation", said Cullifer.
>
>In addition to supporting self study by participating in the publishing
of
>books, cd-rom's and online resources, WOW also provides colleges,
>universities, training companies and high schools with the availability
of
>a "turn-key" curriculum. This curriculum was developed in partnership,
>with the University of Washington, Public Broadcasting Service (PBS),
Web,
>Pearson/Prentice Hall and the U.S. Department of Education's (thanks in
>part to a generous $1.4 million LAPP grant).
>
>Other initiatives include collaboration with industry giants like the
>Adobe Corporation and Cisco Systems offering Web Designer curriculum
based
>on WOW certification standards. Apple Computer in collaboration with
>ID4theWeb and Macromedia have developed a quality curriculum program
>available at Apple centers nationwide, mapping to WOW'S certification
programs.
>
>Other statistics of the ITAA survey include:
>
>Companies surveyed are optimistic about future hiring over the next 12
months
>
>Largest demand for Web professionals seen in larger non-IT companies
>
>80% of all IT workers are employed by small companies
>
>92% of IT workers are employed by non-IT companies
>
>Outsourcing continues to grow in popularity among non-IT companies
>
>Most desirable specific Technical Skills for Web Professionals include:
C
>++, SQL, Java XML, Perl, HTML and SQL Server, TCP/IP and Visual Basic
>
>Overall, certification has grown in significance for each job category
>
>Money remains the primary retention tool according to hiring managers
>
>Applicants with mid level skills sets are most desired (more pronounced
>among IT companies than non IT)
>
>Large shortage expected of qualified candidates (600,000) for 2002
>
>Management and employability or "soft" (not just technical) skills play
an
>important role
>
>About WOW
>WOW, a non-profit, membership supported organization for web
professionals
>provides education, support and guidance to the growing and diverse
>population of Web professionals around the world. WOW certifications,
>including the premier Certified Professional Webmaster (CPW), are
premised
>on standards of competency derived by industry experts for Internet
>design, programming and administration.
>
>For more information contact: Bill Cullifer at 916 608-1597 or
>bill at joinwow.org
>
>
>
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20828/editor at coloradio.com
>
>Please send any comments to robert at joinwow.org

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 05:25:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] Navigation book recommendations (request)
From: Louis Rosenfeld <lou at louisrosenfeld.com>
To: SIGIA-L <sigia-l at asis.org>

On 8/28/02 4:02 PM, "Margaret Hanley" <mairead at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I like Marcia Bates article
> 
> THE DESIGN OF BROWSING AND BERRYPICKING TECHNIQUES FOR THE
> ONLINE SEARCH INTERFACE
> 
> http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/berrypicking.html
> 
> It talks about "navigating" through an information space,
> how people move through traditional online articles. Some
> of the recommendations are a bit dated like the library
> interface, but the principle of berrypicking is a one we
> can apply to navigating the web space.

Also by Bates, also a must-read, and much newer:  "After the Dot-Bomb:
Getting Web Information Retrieval Right this Time," which appeared in
First
Monday in July:  
  http://firstmonday.org/issues/issue7_7/bates/

I blogged Bates' article here:
  http://louisrosenfeld.com/home/bloug_archive/000100.html

Louis Rosenfeld
www.louisrosenfeld.com
information architecture consulting

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:11:57 -0400
To: sigia-l at asis.org, sighci-l at asis.org, siguse-l at asis.org,
	asis-l at asis.org, asis-pnc at rdrop.com
From: Richard Hill <rhill at asis.org>
Subject: [Sigia-l] IA Summit 2003 Call for Participation

2003 Information Architecture Summit
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
is available at http://www.asis.org/Conferences/IA03/index.html

   Information Architecture "Making Connections"
   March 21-23 Portland, OR

STEWART BRAND, author of "How Buildings Learn" and "The
Media Lab: Inventing the Future at MIT," instigator of a
host of provocative, intriguing projects (including the "Whole
Earth" series and working with Doug Engelbart on the first PC
demonstration in 1969) will be our KEYNOTE SPEAKER.  (A
link to his background is available on the IA 03 website.)

First deadline is DECEMBER 2, 2002

 From the call:
The 2003 summit on Information Architecture will explore the
many elements that go into creating excellent information
architecture, both from within the discipline and without.

The Summit seeks proposals for
      Case Studies (Deadline: December 2, 2002)
      Presentations that demonstrate innovative and effective
            information architecture practices (Deadline: December 
2,              2002)
      Posters (Deadline: January 15, 2003)

We are open to contributions from people with solid and relevant
ideas, including areas that may be considered ancillary or outside
of Information Architecture.

We encourage submissions by students, developers and designers,
work of  a specialized nature, work concerning new features,
design elements, methods or processes, controversial topics, and
work in progress.

We are especially interested in receiving submissions from
speakers in our field who have not presented at the summit in the
past, including academics, professionals in related fields and
information architects who have not yet had the opportunity to
share their knowledge.

We want to invigorate our conference with new thoughts.

Executive Director
American Society for Information Science and Technology
1320 Fenwick Lane, Suite 510
Silver Spring, MD  20910
FAX: (301) 495-0810
PHONE: (301) 495-0900

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Message: 10
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Cc: lou at louisrosenfeld.com, sigia-l at asis.org
From: "Richard Wiggins" <rich at richardwiggins.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] psst / Polar book
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT)

Wow, congratulations to Lou and to Peter on the 2d edition!  

Here's an interesting quirk:  Try finding the new book on Amazon.  Go to
the
Amazon home page, don't click on the Books tab, and just do a search
for:

 information architecture

The federated hit list doesn't include "the" book we want!

Now click on the hyperlink (not the tab) for "All Books" and you see
both
editions, with the 2d edition shown first, as "Most Popular".

Seems Amazon could tweak their algorithms a bit here, scoring word
proximity
higher, scoring initial phrase higher, and scoring popularity higher. 
It
may be that the algorithm for books ought to be different than the
algorithm
for other products (I wonder if it is?)  If I walked into Barnes and
Noble
and asked for a book named "Information Architecture" I bet their title
search would work first time.

Of course ORA features the title on their home page.  They also offer as
a
sample the chapter on ... search systems!   

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/infotecture2/chapter/index.html

Ahh, sweet irony.  :-)

/rich

(PS - as accidental thesaurus editor I'd make sure "The Polar Bear Book"
matches as that seems to be the more popular phrase in this crowd!)

On Wed, 28 August 2002, Luz M Quiroga wrote:

> 
> I just got the book, from O'Reilly, here in hawaii. Must be already in
> mainland bookstores
> 
> Luz

____________________________________________________
Richard Wiggins
Writing, Speaking, and Consulting on Internet Topics
rich at richardwiggins.com       www.richardwiggins.com     

____________________________________________________
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Message: 11
To: sigia-l at asis.org
Cc: lou at louisrosenfeld.com, sigia-l at asis.org
From: "Richard Wiggins" <rich at richardwiggins.com>
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] psst / Polar book
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT)