[Sigia-l] more on mixing apples, oranges, tomatoes, Cleveland, Kansas City... (was IA practice maturation)

[Frank Siraguso]

When I was a kid, many lives of men ago, I and my friends figured that the midwest consisted of: Iowa, Missouri, Kansas and Nebraska. It was a long time before I could even accept Chicago as midwestern, being east of the Mississippi and all. In fact, we considered St. Louis to be the last eastern city (direction-wise). Nowadays, I'm a little more inclusive. Chicago, OK. Minneapolis, fine. It's a stretch to think of Michigan in the midwest since it is in the eastern time zone, but if Good Peter considers himself a midwesterner, good enough!

I suppose to someone in New York or New England, Michigan is the midwest, especially if one is thinking pre-Louisiana Purchase. On the other hand, to those in California we're all "back east."

In the final analysis, does this mean that in a controlled vocabulary we should just go ahead and cross-walk the term "midwest"? :)

Frank Siraguso
KC

-----Original Message-----
From: Maribeth Sullivan [mailto:maribeth at madiganpratt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:31 PM
To: zapolsja at WellsFargo.COM; morville at semanticstudios.com;
sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: RE: [Sigia-l] more on mixing apples, oranges, tomatoes,
Cleveland, Kansas City... (was IA practice maturation)


Well, geography is only one of Ann Arbor's facets that might be labeled
"midwest." Attitude is another. As one who has spent most of my life on the
East Coast except for my time at Argus, I can attest to a very different and
refreshing "mid-west attitude" in Ann Arbor that I sorely miss now that I am
back in New England. Or should I consider attitude a "State of Mind" and
shuffle it back into the geography category?

And if geography and attitude are two of Ann Arbor's attributes and
"midwest" is a value that can be used for either, can I order a glass of
rose from the tomato section Hiller's Market in Ann Arbor?

Maribeth Sullivan,
Information Architect
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> -----Original Message-----

> The good Peter wrote:
>
> > Actually, as a resident of the Midwest, I can comfortably say...
>
> Okay, that makes two of you.  After Lou's last post, I emailed
> him off list
> to hear more about when Ann Arbor started being in the Midwest.  Having
> grown up in Michigan, I always lumped it into a geographic category with
> other Great Lakes states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, not quite Northeast
> (Boston) but not Midwest (Omaha), either.  Afterall, Detroit is closer to
> Buffalo than it is even to Chicago.   I'm sure that to many folks on the
> list, the Midwest is anything between Philadelphia and Las Vegas,
> but to me
> your locating Michigan in the Midwest is another interesting
> example of how
> categories of place can differ even within a relatively similar
> user group.
> Or maybe I'm just weird....   Lou claims he's never heard otherwise.  Does
> everyone else think that Michigan is in the Midwest?
>
> -john zapolski


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