[Sigia-l] URL design - mixing apples and oranges and tomatoes FORK: Session Cookies, etc

[Stewart, Erin [NEA]]

..."Serious applications invite serious users. Serious users have their 
cookies enabled."...

Except for the millions of serious users (and kooks) using computers in public schools and libraries.

Erin Stewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe 10 Enterprises [mailto:joe at joe10.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:01 PM
To: Ziya Oz; sigia-l at asis.org
Subject: Re: [Sigia-l] URL design - mixing apples and oranges and
tomatoes FORK: Session Cookies, etc


Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Charles Schwab. Not Intranets. Fairly 
serious applications. Require cookies. (I'm not claiming association, 
just using them as examples)

Serious applications invite serious users. Serious users have their 
cookies enabled.

Just like standards compliance, let's stop wasting our time and our 
clients money doing back flips through flaming hoops for the handful 
of kooks out there who are watching every cookie come in and using 
Netscape 4.6. Simple, and real life.

I mean, jeez, you're gonna cater to people with non-standard set ups 
(let's face it, even Lynx accepts cookies now) but create mondo, 
unreadable URLs which don't tell anything about the content and are 
prone to link rot? Every time? Alternative B is "Write it, read it, 
if it's not there, THEN write a SID into the URL"

Yeah, to hell with HTTP - can't even pronounce it. Do it all in Flash 
I say... or better yet, Real Basic :-)

/Joe

At 2:30 PM -0400 4/14/02, Ziya Oz wrote:
>"Joe 10 Enterprises" wrote:
>
>>  I think the accepted standard is becoming that if you are going so
>>  far as to use sessions, then you kind of have the right to say "Hey,
>>  you have to have cookies enabled to proceed
>
>...and life is sweet :-)
>
>When you design serious non-intranet apps, you usually don't have that
>luxury and you discover, one by one, all the shortcomings of HTTP, which is
>an ugly hack. Very useful, but ugly.
>
>Best,
>
>Ziya
>
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