[Sigcr-l] New thread - Year of Cataloging Research as topic for 2010 SIG-...

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Mr. Drumtra:

Thank you for your interesting message.  My understanding is that "metadata practice" is the broader category, of which "cataloging" is a wholly included subcategory.  The category of "metadata practice" concerns the creation and management of information about other information.  "Metadata practice" is a very broad field that includes, among many other kinds of practice, cataloging, archival practice, records management, indexing & abstracting, the creation of legal citators such as Shepard's and KeyCite, knowledge management within business organizations, and standards activities related to all of these.  In my view, cataloging is just a particular kind of metadata practice, namely, the creation and management of information about information resources, as recorded in surrogates intended to be aggregated in a particular kind of database, namely a library catalog, usually featuring (at least) author, title, and subject access, and usually performed in conformance with standards.  See, e.g., Lois Mai Chan, Cataloging and Classification: An Introduction ch. 1 (2d ed. 1994).  In your view, what aspect of cataloging is not included within the broader category of "metadata practice"?

Regards,

Robert Richards

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----- Original Message -----
From: Drumtra at aol.com
To: sigcr-l at asis.org
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 6:05:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Sigcr-l] New thread - Year of Cataloging Research as topic for 2010 SIG-...

At the risk of showing my naivety, I am confused about the distinction  
being made between metadata and cataloging. 
 
>From my library school work it seems to me that one of the  aspects of 
cataloging is generating metadata about the books being cataloged.  That 
includes drawing on AACR2R and soon to be RDA for description, subject  headings 
and classification schemes for organizing the books, and MARC,  DACS, and 
other schemes for formatting and exchanging the metadata. Metadata  practices 
include some cataloging practices and cataloging practices  include some 
metadata practices.
 
Are we not really saying, it is important to consider what library  
catalogers can teach metadata specialists and what metadata  specialists can teach 
library catalogers?
 
Don Drumtra
Student
iSchool
University of Texas 
 
 
In a message dated 5/28/2009 21:24:05 Central Daylight Time,  
janeg at email.unc.edu writes:

Hope, i  like your list very much. of course i am fond of your point about 
"what  metadata can teach cataloging;" and i am thinking it is equally 
important to  consider what "cataloging can teach metadata" too.

i love all of the  sig/cr discussion that has taken place, and will support 
any program, however  we label it :)

best wishes, jane


On Wed, 27 May 2009, Hope A  Olson wrote:

> I would support the theme that puts Library  Cataloging Research at the 
> center and would encourage the inclusion  of metadata (and other forms of 
> information organization) in relation  to library cataloging. Such topics 
> might include:
>
> -  aspects of cataloging and metadata compared
> - shared principles  of
> - cataloging and metadata
> - cataloging as the progenitor of  metadata
> - what metadata can teach cataloging
> - will  cataloging ultimately give way to cataloging?
>
> I'm sure  collectively we can think of others
>
> These would be in addition  to core topics related to library cataloging 
> among which I would  include the principles, the users, the standards, 
> the process, the  records, the databases, the interfaces, the history, 
>  etc.
>
> Last year we had a very stimulating workshop on the  fairly specific 
> theme of organizing images. This year's workshop is  on the theme 
> Bridging Worlds, Connecting People: Classification  Transcending 
> Boundaries (I remind you that proposals for papers and  posters are due 
> June 15) which stresses perspective rather than  content. Going back to a 
> content-oriented theme for next year seems  reasonable to me - especially 
> given the potential scope of library  cataloging research.
>
> Somewhat related: I believe someone  suggested changing the name of the 
> SIG from Classification Research  to Information Organization or 
> Knowledge Organization. Since that is  what we do in practice, I think 
> that makes sense. This year's theme  uses the term "Classification," but 
> in reality it, like previous  years, will go beyond classification to 
> other aspects of information  organization.
>
> Hope
>
> Hope A. Olson, Professor  and Associate Dean
> School of Information Studies
> 510G Bolton  Hall
> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> Milwaukee, WI  53201
> USA
> http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/SOIS
> email  holson at uwm.edu
>
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