[Sigcr-l] New thread - Year of Cataloging Research as topic for 2010 SIG-CR Classification Workshop
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mpereira at istar.ca
Wed May 27 10:15:24 EDT 2009
DEar all,
I find "metadata" a very over-used and confusing buzz-word.
Within a catalogue entry (use the metaphor of a "card" one has data
elements, which are data in themselves.
The same data elements are also used for descriptive purposes with
respect to the publication (or resource) they pertain to.
In the development of the multipart ISO/IEC 19788 standard "ITLET -
Metada for Learning Resources (MLR)", we have reverted to data elements
and are standardizing the set of attributes which each data element must
have in order to be well defined and specified.
Applying a cataloging (and accessioning) rules and practices has really
helped clear up the "metadata" clouds, various "models, letting
application syntaxes confuse things, etc.
Many of those involved in "metadata" have neither library/information
science background/experience nor that of database management but are
very adept at making nice interactive presentations (often using
modeling tools and very simplistic examples).
Enough said.
Finally I think that "Classification Research" is a clear and straight
forward and "niche" term
best regards - Jake Knoppers
Hope A Olson wrote:
> I would support the theme that puts Library Cataloging Research at the center and would encourage the inclusion of metadata (and other forms of information organization) in relation to library cataloging. Such topics might include:
>
> - aspects of cataloging and metadata compared
> - shared principles of cataloging and metadata
> - cataloging as the progenitor of metadata
> - what metadata can teach cataloging
> - will cataloging ultimately give way to cataloging?
> I'm sure collectively we can think of others
>
> These would be in addition to core topics related to library cataloging among which I would include the principles, the users, the standards, the process, the records, the databases, the interfaces, the history, etc.
>
> Last year we had a very stimulating workshop on the fairly specific theme of organizing images. This year's workshop is on the theme Bridging Worlds, Connecting People: Classification Transcending Boundaries (I remind you that proposals for papers and posters are due June 15) which stresses perspective rather than content. Going back to a content-oriented theme for next year seems reasonable to me - especially given the potential scope of library cataloging research.
>
> Somewhat related: I believe someone suggested changing the name of the SIG from Classification Research to Information Organization or Knowledge Organization. Since that is what we do in practice, I think that makes sense. This year's theme uses the term "Classification," but in reality it, like previous years, will go beyond classification to other aspects of information organization.
>
> Hope
>
> Hope A. Olson, Professor and Associate Dean
> School of Information Studies
> 510G Bolton Hall
> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> Milwaukee, WI 53201
> USA
> http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/SOIS
> email holson at uwm.edu
>
> ----- "Allyson Carlyle" <acarlyle at u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: "Allyson Carlyle" <acarlyle at u.washington.edu>
>> To: "Luz M Quiroga" <lquiroga at hawaii.edu>
>> Cc: sigcr-l at asis.org, harcourt at columbia.edu, "Jimmie Lundgren" <JIMLUND at uflib.ufl.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:22:03 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>> Subject: [Sigcr-l] New thread - Year of Cataloging Research as topic for 2010 SIG-CR Classification Workshop
>>
>> Hi Luz and all,
>> The declaration will be coming from ALA ALCTS, so the name "Year of
>> Cataloging Research" is not something that is open to compromise. As
>> such, I will propose that the topic of the workshop be cataloging
>> research and not metadata research.
>>
>> That said, as I pointed out earlier, the decision about what the topic
>> of the workshop will be is up to SIG-CR as it is represented at the
>> meeting in the fall, and my proposal may either not fly or be
>> broadened in scope.
>>
>> Why cataloging and not something broader? Because the Library of
>> Congress (LC) last year commissioned a report called "On the Record"
>> (http://www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/news/lcwg-ontherecord-jan08-final.pdf)
>> looking at the state of bibliographic control and cataloging and how
>> LC fits into the picture. One of the recommendations was to support
>> research in cataloging because it was determined that such research is
>> very much needed. The recommendations quoted here ("All" means the
>> entire library community, not just ALA or LC or OCLC, to whom other
>> recommendations are directed):
>>
>> 5.1.2 Support Ongoing Research
>> 5.1.2.1 All: Encourage ongoing qualitative and quantitative research
>> (and its publication) about bibliographic control, for various types
>> of libraries and over a protracted period of time.
>> 5.1.2.2 All: Through library and information science (LIS) and
>> continuing education, foster a greater understanding of the need for
>> research, both quantitative and qualitative, into issues of
>> bibliographic control.
>>
>> I do not deny the need for research in metadata, but the purpose of
>> our efforts is to highlight and encourage research in library
>> cataloging specifically, and so that is what I will pursue. There is
>> at least one other entire conference devoted to metadata (DC) and the
>> ISKO conferences are devoted to KO in general - where they also, by
>> the way, sometimes select somewhat narrow topics for focusing
>> conference papers. I think this is ok. Also, the specific topic of
>> the conference doesn't preclude people from submitting papers that are
>> not necessarily right on topic.
>>
>> Finally, please don't feel excluded. Should my proposal be accepted,
>> attend and take it as an opportunity to learn more about library
>> cataloging!
>>
>> Allyson
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Luz M Quiroga [mailto:lquiroga at hawaii.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:58 AM
>> To: Allyson Carlyle
>> Cc: sigcr-l at asis.org
>> Subject: Re: [Sigcr-l] SIG-CR: New chair and chair elect
>>
>> Aloha Allyson!
>>
>> When I see the term "Library cataloging" I feel excluded (I consider
>> myself a system designer, with limited knowldge on library cataloging
>> :);
>> when I read the term "metadata" it matches the most important part of
>> my
>> work
>>
>> I would go for something broader than library cataloging; I teach in
>> three
>> programs: MLIS, ICS (Information and Computer Science, undergraduate
>> and
>> graduate) and CIS (Communication and Information Science, doctoral
>> program); topics covered in my teaching include digital libraries, IT
>> in
>> libraries, web 2.0 based services, information retrieval,
>> personalization
>> / filtering, information architecture, relational database systems,
>> user
>> modeling / profiling). In my readings for all those classes, the term
>> that
>> bridges those courses is metadata and ontological research. They
>> include
>> research on goals (e.g. interoperability, integration of services),
>> the
>> schemes themselves (e.g. types, purposes), implementation (languages,
>> frameworks, technologies), applications (e.g. domains, services) and
>> use
>> (e.g. evaluations).
>>
>> Anyway, as you say, it is up to the group to decide what to highlight
>> for
>> 2010; glad to be part of SIG CR!
>>
>> Luz
>>
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>> "Cuando yo tenia listas las respuestas, me cambiaron las preguntas."
>> Graffitti en Quito citado por Benedetti (1992)
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>> Luz M. Quiroga Information & Computer
>> Sciences
>> Assistant Professor Library and Information
>> Science
>> mailto: lquiroga at hawaii.edu University of Hawai'i at
>> Manoa
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, 22 May 2009, Allyson Carlyle wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, the intention is to highlight research in library
>> cataloging,
>>> so I will propose the title of cataloging research. But, if others
>> want
>>> to amend, it is up to the group.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sigcr-l-bounces at asis.org [mailto:sigcr-l-bounces at asis.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jane Greenberg
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:52 AM
>>> To: Miksa, Shawne
>>> Cc: sigcr-l at asis.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Sigcr-l] SIG-CR: New chair and chair elect
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all...
>>>
>>> could we potentially think of 2010 as a year of cataloging/metadata
>>> research?
>>>
>>> there's a fuzzy line as is (i personally of them as one and the
>> same,
>>> although maybe everyone doesn't). RDA is inclusive of metadata for
>> digital
>>> resources.
>>>
>>> i believe there could be some really beneficial implications too,
>> letting
>>> the larger world see the importance of cataloging to many
>> activities,
>>> including those couched more as metadata.
>>>
>>> cheers, jane
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 May 2009, Miksa, Shawne wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm 100% behind Allyson and her suggestion for 2010 being the year
>> of cataloging research. Count me in for helping with that. I just
>> finished up a short piece-- to appear in the next ASIST
>> Bulletin--addressing Resource Description and Access (RDA) and new
>> research potentials coming out of its implementation and use.
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>> Shawne D. Miksa, Ph.D.
>>>> Associate Professor
>>>> Department of Library and Information Sciences
>>>> College of Information
>>>> University of North Texas
>>>> email: Shawne.Miksa at unt.edu<mailto:Shawne.Miksa at unt.edu>
>>>> http://courses.unt.edu/smiksa/index.htm
>>>> office 940-565-3560 fax 940-565-3101
>>>> **************************************************************
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: sigcr-l-bounces at asis.org [sigcr-l-bounces at asis.org] On
>> Behalf Of Allyson Carlyle [acarlyle at u.washington.edu]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:15 AM
>>>> To: sigcr-l at asis.org
>>>> Cc: Jimmie Lundgren
>>>> Subject: Re: [Sigcr-l] SIG-CR: New chair and chair elect
>>>>
>>>> Hello Diane and Megan and all,
>>>> I am very interested in helping with the Classification Research
>> Workshop next year. I am working on an ALA Task Force (with a
>> complicated charge, which I will spare everyone) that is working to
>> increase awareness and support for research in library cataloging. We
>> are planning on declaring 2010 the year of cataloging research, and so
>> I would like to propose that this be the theme of the workshop for
>> 2010. I know this needs support of the group, but I thought I would
>> put it out there early, to let people think about it.
>>>> Allyson
>>>>
>>>> Allyson Carlyle
>>>> Associate Professor and Chair, Ph.D. Program
>>>> Information School
>>>> MGH Suite 370
>>>> University of Washington
>>>> Seattle, WA 98195-2840
>>>>
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