From needleman_mark at yahoo.com Fri Jul 8 17:26:12 2016 From: needleman_mark at yahoo.com (Mark Needleman) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 17:26:12 -0400 Subject: [Asis-standards] ISO votes Message-ID: Folks i just cast the following votes in ISO ISO/CD 20247, Information and documentation -- International library item identifier (ILII) Do you agree to the circulation of the draft as a DIS? - YES New Work Item Proposal: ISO 21047 (ISTC) Do you approve the creation of a new project to the Revision of ISO 21047? - NO Comments: Within Anglo-American cataloging rules, there is a certain need for more robust systems dealing with different bibliographic relationships. The main problem that ASIST sees is that of bibliographic relationships: how to visualize and express the different possible networks of textual (conceptual) works, and their different manifestations in print or digital form. Annex E offers models for some of the different networks of relationships, but has to admit in its opening that the models are "not normative," and that "in some cases, it is possible to choose between two alternative structures." In the Anglo-American library world, the theoretical model of FRBR and its practical application in the cataloging standards of RDA have tried to clarify these kinds of relationships, but the models in Annex E offer only partial and non-normative adherence to the library bibliographic model. ASIST believes that the ISTC can be applied within the U.S. cataloging world, but that there may not be enough benefit to achieve buy-in. In addition, the publishing world tends to operate (ASIST believes) along subtly different models of relationships, with the physical manifestation being much more important to systems applications, even when considering copyright. Here, too, ASIST is not convinced that the community would use the new standard number authority. With that, ASIST doubts the standard would be used widely in the U. S. as written. Comments provided by Timothy Dickey Mark From needleman_mark at yahoo.com Fri Jul 8 19:49:41 2016 From: needleman_mark at yahoo.com (Mark H Needleman) Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 19:49:41 -0400 Subject: [Asis-standards] Fwd: ISO votes References: Message-ID: In case this didn't go through the first time Mark Sent from Mark Needleman's iPhone Albert Einstein "There are two things that are limitless, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe" Begin forwarded message: > From: Mark Needleman > Date: July 8, 2016 at 5:26:12 PM EDT > To: ASIST Standards Committee > Subject: ISO votes > > Folks > > i just cast the following votes in ISO > > ISO/CD 20247, Information and documentation -- International library item identifier (ILII) > > Do you agree to the circulation of the draft as a DIS? - YES > > New Work Item Proposal: ISO 21047 (ISTC) > > Do you approve the creation of a new project to the Revision of ISO 21047? - NO > > Comments: > > Within Anglo-American cataloging rules, there is a certain need for more robust systems dealing with different bibliographic relationships. > > The main problem that ASIST sees is that of bibliographic relationships: how to visualize and express the different possible networks of textual (conceptual) works, and their different manifestations in print or digital form. Annex E offers models for some of the different networks of relationships, but has to admit in its opening that the models are "not normative," and that "in some cases, it is possible to choose between two alternative structures." > > In the Anglo-American library world, the theoretical model of FRBR and its practical application in the cataloging standards of RDA have tried to clarify these kinds of relationships, but the models in Annex E offer only partial and non-normative adherence to the library bibliographic model. ASIST believes that the ISTC can be applied within the U.S. cataloging world, but that there may not be enough benefit to achieve buy-in. > > In addition, the publishing world tends to operate (ASIST believes) along subtly different models of relationships, with the physical manifestation being much more important to systems applications, even when considering copyright. Here, too, ASIST is not convinced that the community would use the new standard number authority. > > With that, ASIST doubts the standard would be used widely in the U. S. as written. > > > > Comments provided by Timothy Dickey > > > Mark From needleman_mark at yahoo.com Fri Jul 15 14:52:14 2016 From: needleman_mark at yahoo.com (Mark Needleman) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:52:14 -0400 Subject: [Asis-standards] NISO votes Message-ID: <60691A50-7C27-4835-8AF5-A21C3212D0FA@yahoo.com> Folks i just cast the following votes in NISO: YES on Approval of Proposed New Work Item: Recommended Practice for Enhancing KBART for Automated Exchange of Title Lists and Library Holdings YES on Approval of Proposed New Work Item: Recommended Practice on E-Book Bibliographic Metadata Requirements in the Sale, Publication, Discovery, Delivery, and Preservation Supply Chain Right now there are no more upcoming votes for awhile - but that could change Mark